The_Kincardine Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: It included pretty much the first part, but not the second as I don't think it's the case. So if asked a Q about how a player is treated it's ok to ramble about Traynor and GCC? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, The_Kincardine said: So if asked a Q about how a player is treated it's ok to ramble about Traynor and GCC? I don't know what GCC means. Connecting coverage of Morelos to Traynor is of course, perfectly legitimate. He did it artlessly though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: What are you on about now? Calling Traynor a dangerous bully was fine. I've heard much worse said on the programme about figures like John Brown, Ian Cathro and Craig Levein. Nobody cowered in terror on those occasions. We both agree there should've been no apology? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't know what GCC means. Connecting coverage of Morelos to Traynor is of course, perfectly legitimate. He did it artlessly though. Glasgow City Council. Susan Aitken (SNP) used her position as lead of GCC to interfere with Rangers' desire to have a local Fanzone. She and David McDonald issued emails asking that this sensible request be denied. The idiot Stewart then claimed, in his ramble, that it was our fault for not 'working in conjunction with people' but instead 'going to war'. He thus showed a view of truth that no sane person could endorse. Also, "Connecting coverage of Morelos to Traynor is of course, perfectly legitimate" is only so if you think it's fine to abuse young black players who play for Rangers. Morelos gets a hard gig in Scotland and has even had calls to deport him. Stewart was right about Traynor but wrong about everything else. He certainly should never be on BBC again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: Glasgow City Council. Susan Aitken (SNP) used her position as lead of GCC to interfere with Rangers' desire to have a local Fanzone. She and David McDonald issued emails asking that this sensible request be denied. The idiot Stewart then claimed, in his ramble, that it was our fault for not 'working in conjunction with people' but instead 'going to war'. He thus showed a view of truth that no sane person could endorse. Also, "Connecting coverage of Morelos to Traynor is of course, perfectly legitimate" is only so if you think it's fine to abuse young black players who play for Rangers. Morelos gets a hard gig in Scotland and has even had calls to deport him. Stewart was right about Traynor but wrong about everything else. He certainly should never be on BBC again. What are you slethering about? The Glasgow City Council was onside but the community council told you they weren't happy with the plans. This is the exact thing Stewart was talking about. You come out attacking anyone who you feel has wronged you even if you don't have a clue. The fact is that Rangers media strategy is to be perma-raging victims. And that is endorsed by your PR guru Traynor. Because I guess that if they couldn't work you up into a frenzy then you might start asking if it is the people at the club who were at fault. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public menace Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Glasgow City Council. Susan Aitken (SNP) used her position as lead of GCC to interfere with Rangers' desire to have a local Fanzone. She and David McDonald issued emails asking that this sensible request be denied. The idiot Stewart then claimed, in his ramble, that it was our fault for not 'working in conjunction with people' but instead 'going to war'. He thus showed a view of truth that no sane person could endorse. Also, "Connecting coverage of Morelos to Traynor is of course, perfectly legitimate" is only so if you think it's fine to abuse young black players who play for Rangers. Morelos gets a hard gig in Scotland and has even had calls to deport him. Stewart was right about Traynor but wrong about everything else. He certainly should never be on BBC again.Who has called for Morelos to be deported? Any proof 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: We both agree there should've been no apology? No we don't. I think an apology was needed because he got something wrong about the Daily Record. It was possibly needed also with regard to Traynor leaking and promoting the 'brake tampering' myth, because I don't think Stewart could support it. If he could, he should have done so, rather than offer a bumbling retraction. The nature of the apology we did get, with its references to "not here to defend himself" was however, thoroughly inappropriate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Also, "Connecting coverage of Morelos to Traynor is of course, perfectly legitimate" is only so if you think it's fine to abuse young black players who play for Rangers. What a monumentally stupid thing to say. It's you who now owes people apologies, but obviously, I'm not anticipating one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: . He certainly should never be on BBC again. Rangers wanting another BBC man banned. Everything has come full circle since I was growing up in the sixties. The paranoia then came exclusively from Celtic Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 What a monumentally stupid thing to say. It's you who now owes people apologies, but obviously, I'm not anticipating one.He’s an intelligent guy but he argues in bad faith a lot, particularly in matters such as these. Ridiculous accusation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Public menace said: Who has called for Morelos to be deported? Any proof A guy questioned the signing of Morelos claiming he didnt meet the criteria as an overseas player (a blogger John James). So he should be chucked. All bollocks but evidence of the pressure that poor wee boy is under. As if Morelos gave a shit about it or was even aware of it. Of course this is a horrifying example of what he faces rather than people associated with him and the club he plays for manipulating what he says for their own gain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: No we don't. I think an apology was needed because he got something wrong about the Daily Record. It was possibly needed also with regard to Traynor leaking and promoting the 'brake tampering' myth, because I don't think Stewart could support it. If he could, he should have done so, rather than offer a bumbling retraction. The nature of the apology we did get, with its references to "not here to defend himself" was however, thoroughly inappropriate. The thing is Stewart knows that Macintyre will move on to the next subject so instead of getting caught up in the detail he tried to move straight to the crux of the matter. By naming Jabba the nut he lost his credence everyone knew it was a PR disaster and a cover up for their mistakes. Darryl Broadfoot is all about the perception of the listener, he got it spot on by calling it a scooby doo episode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: The thing is Stewart knows that Macintyre will move on to the next subject so instead of getting caught up in the detail he tried to move straight to the crux of the matter. By naming Jabba the nut he lost his credence everyone knew it was a PR disaster and a cover up for their mistakes. Darryl Broadfoot is all about the perception of the listener, he got it spot on by calling it a scooby doo episode. Nothing wrong with naming Traynor and criticising the way he works, so long as compelling, current supporting evidence is provided. This is the bit Stewart struggled with. I suspect it reflected his failure to research the evidence, rather than its absence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Nothing wrong with naming Traynor and criticising the way he works, so long as compelling, current supporting evidence is provided. This is the bit Stewart struggled with. I suspect it reflected his failure to research the evidence, rather than its absence. A right to reply would be better Jabba v Stewart like they did with Bomber Brown and the egg chaser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: What are you slethering about? The Glasgow City Council was onside but the community council told you they weren't happy with the plans. No. The pilot fanzones went well. Aitken and McDonald then got involved in the process and put the kibosh on it. Aitken also tried to use photos of Frank McAveety attending a game at Ibrox as a slur against him. This is why she was reported to the commissioner for ethical standards by Adam Tomkins and McAveety and this is also why Rangers got angry at GCC/Aitken. Stewart got it entirely wrong. The SNP-led council were mendacious towards Rangers' Fanzone and also towards Frank McAveety and they should have been in Stewart's sights rather than Rangers. Edited February 8, 2020 by The_Kincardine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 At least someone is sticking up for the white, male, Protestant, British community. Fair play, Rangers Football Club. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Nothing wrong with naming Traynor and criticising the way he works, so long as compelling, current supporting evidence is provided. This is the bit Stewart struggled with. I suspect it reflected his failure to research the evidence, rather than its absence. Traynor has ample previous of lies and bullying as any examination of his outbursts against my club in particular would attest. Him and his lickspittle hacks in the Record and Sun. He is everything Stewart labelled him and more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: No. The pilot fanzones went well. Aitken and McDonald then got involved in the process and put the kibosh on it. Aitken also tried to use photos of Frank McAveety attending a game at Ibrox as a slur against him. This is why she was reported to the commissioner for ethical standards by Adam Tomkins and McAveety and this is also why Rangers got angry at GCC/Aitken. Stewart got it entirely wrong. The SNP-led council were mendacious towards Rangers' Fanzone and also towards Frank McAveety and they should have been in Stewart's sights rather than Rangers. WOW! you get fed some amount of pish, fecking hell McAveety was the root cause of the equal pay dispute. Your tangent is as bad as Jabba's, one mess to cover up another mess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Haha what a riddy from wee Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: What are you slethering about? The Glasgow City Council was onside but the community council told you they weren't happy with the plans. This is the exact thing Stewart was talking about. You come out attacking anyone who you feel has wronged you even if you don't have a clue. The fact is that Rangers media strategy is to be perma-raging victims. And that is endorsed by your PR guru Traynor. Because I guess that if they couldn't work you up into a frenzy then you might start asking if it is the people at the club who were at fault. That's simply not true, when it comes to Sevco the blinkers just don't come off with some.. McDonald also had to apologise for making derogatory remarks about Rangers on social media, while Aitken tried to smear Frank McAveety (spelling) for attending a game at Ibrox. There obviously was clear bias at Glasgow cc and Michael Stewart is a high profile SNP campaigner. What they forget is that a lot of bears vote SNP. Michael Stewart was asked by the sportsound host not to get political, Michael knew best. Michael Stewart was asked by the sportsound host to stop getting personal with Traynor and the Record (a pro labour publication), Michael knew best. All Michael had to do was an answer a simple question about whether one player was being treated unfairly in Scottish fitba, that's all. Maybe Michael would be better suited to a commercial station rather than the beeb with its codes of conduct. Being controversial to stay relevant is his thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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