NorthernLights Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 With all this talk about rankings I thought I'd see where Wales are in the ELO rankings - http://www.eloratings.net/world.html 43rd but it looks like their recent win over Belgium will send them flying up the table all the way to... 41st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I've said it before and I'll say it again - Scotland are a better team than Wales. Yes they beat us twice recently, one of the games coming during the dreadful Levein era and the other just at the start of WGS'. Despite this they still finished below us in that qualification group. Their golden generation - one of our worst teams / managers = still finishing below us. They are not good and Belgium are a team who consistently flatter to deceive. It's a great result, I'm not denying that, but I don't think Wales are a very good team. They'd be regularly destroyed in the actual Euros, I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Didn't realise Jeff Lynne took an interest in such matters. Aye, I've always found the ELO rankings to be a bit too 'blue sky' for my tastes. Certainly a few massive discrepancies there, and I think I'd probably agree more with the ELO overall, for what that's worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I've said it before and I'll say it again - Scotland are a better team than Wales. Yes they beat us twice recently, one of the games coming during the dreadful Levein era and the other just at the start of WGS'. Despite this they still finished below us in that qualification group. Their golden generation - one of our worst teams / managers = still finishing below us. They are not good and Belgium are a team who consistently flatter to deceive. It's a great result, I'm not denying that, but I don't think Wales are a very good team. They'd be regularly destroyed in the actual Euros, I'd imagine. They've got form behind them at the moment, though. Got to give them some credit for that. I've not seen them play in these qualifiers apart from against Israel, where they bossed the match, but they must be doing something right. Combined with them being a bit of a bogey team for us for the past thirty years, I wouldn't fancy us to beat them if we were playing tomorrow. They're not the ninth best team in the world, though, or whatever nonsense is being predicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenal till I die Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 He swears when he wants. He swears when he wants. He's Jack Wilshere. He swears when he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 They've got form behind them at the moment, though. Got to give them some credit for that. I've not seen them play in these qualifiers apart from against Israel, where they bossed the match, but they must be doing something right. Combined with them being a bit of a bogey team for us for the past thirty years, I wouldn't fancy us to beat them if we were playing tomorrow. They're not the ninth best team in the world, though, or whatever nonsense is being predicted I'd love to get them in the playoffs personally. And I can see capitulating against some no marks in the games to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'd love to get them in the playoffs personally. And I can see capitulating against some no marks in the games to come. Doubt they'll drop into the playoffs. Belgium may well catch them, but Israel or Cyprus are unlikely to overhaul them to push them into 3rd. Even if they did though, I'd rather not draw them. If Bale and Ramsey were both missing, fair enough, and we should have enough to beat them. But if they're both available - particularly Bale - then they'll always have that potential to make something from nothing. Who do we have that comes even close to Bale? For that alone, I'd rather we drew someone else if the chance came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Doubt they'll drop into the playoffs. Belgium may well catch them, but Israel or Cyprus are unlikely to overhaul them to push them into 3rd. Even if they did though, I'd rather not draw them. If Bale and Ramsey were both missing, fair enough, and we should have enough to beat them. But if they're both available - particularly Bale - then they'll always have that potential to make something from nothing. Who do we have that comes even close to Bale? For that alone, I'd rather we drew someone else if the chance came up. It's a team sport and we are a better team - as demonstrated by finishing above them in the recent group. They, along with Romania, are by far the easiest 1st group seeds in WCQ. When it comes to the playoffs I'd take Wales over an underperforming (but far better) team like Russia. Agreed they are unlikely to drop into the playoffs, though, I wish Scotlands competition was nations like Irsael and Cyprus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebirds Boyo Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Wales aren't even in the top 20 sides in the world. That's quite a compliment. Posts like these used to say not in the top 100... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-23/croatia-deducted-point-over-swastika-incident/ Croatia have been deducted one European Championship qualifying point and fined 100,000 euros after a Swastika appeared to be marked on the pitch in a match against Italy. They have also been ordered to play their next two home games behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-23/croatia-deducted-point-over-swastika-incident/ Croatia have been deducted one European Championship qualifying point and fined 100,000 euros after a Swastika appeared to be marked on the pitch in a match against Italy. They have also been ordered to play their next two home games behind closed doors. Shouldn't make any difference to their qualification, although that point might be important when deciding who finishes top of the group. They could probably have managed a draw in Norway and still finished top; considering Italy look likely to win their remaining fixtures, they'll probably need to do likewise now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Allow me to commemorate the loss of six weeks' worth of posts by pointing out that Gareth Bale has an enormous mouth. Could fit an entire jar of hot dogs in there and still have room for...erm...some other long cylindrical objects. 'Mon the Wales! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Holland 2-0 down in Turkey after half an hour. They really can't be arsed going to France next summer can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The Netherlands 2-0 down to Turkey already, a result which would leave them in 4th place. What a shambles they are at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The Netherlands 2-0 down to Turkey already, a result which would leave them in 4th place. What a shambles they are at the moment. Are they more or less shambolic that Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Are they more or less shambolic that Scotland? At least it's slightly surprising when the Netherlands are a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I haven't seen any of the Dutch games so far - what the hell's going on with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Chants of "are you Rodney in disguise?" coming from the stands in Turkey. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Laughing stock of Europe IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 And they're bursting my coupon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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