Dee Bliss Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dundee-FC92 said: Williamson and Maguire would be my choice as I don't like McGhee as a midfielder. But as you say Bowyer clearly sees McGhee as part of his best eleven, that's not going to change. We'll have plenty games harder than Queens; they aren't near the best team in the league. They were absolutely woeful at Dens because they couldn't cope with being pressed. Their passing went to shit and they resorted to lobbing it. Teams have been giving them far too much respect. Partick are a better team and Morton style of play will cause us more problems on Friday. I remember at half time against Queens thinking Maguire was abysmal - us winning 3 0 didn't alter that much although he done a bit more in the second half. We needed better than Grayson but in his good performances I remember (ArbroathH, AcciesA, AyrH and Partick away) he was at a level above what Maguire is producing. The only thing Maguire is doing better is some big tackles which we know in Scotland is all people can see at times. Up against Morton away can see us dropping points with a midfield of McGhee and Maguire and us playing a terrible brand of football akin to the Morten. Why not go there and show some attacking intent to outplay the diddies with Robinson, Jakubiak, Cameron, McMullen and Williamson all starting with an anchor infront of the defence. Going to Morten with a mindset to make it a shitfest isn't imposing our qualities on them. Thank you. Grayson was abysmal away to Partick. Remember people around me losing the plot that day with Bowyer about his performance. Max Anderson came on and changed that game. Grayson was hiding as per usual. The thing about Maguire and McGhee in midfield is that they’re protecting the back 4 and we now have the best defensive record in the league. We’ve stopped shipping goals, Arbroath aside, and it means there’s another 4 players in the team that can mostly concentrate on scoring. Edited February 14 by Yenitit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, Yenitit said: Grayson was abysmal away to Partick. Remember people around me losing the plot that day with Bowyer about his performance. Max Anderson came on and changed that game. Grayson was hiding as per usual. The thing about Maguire and McGhee in midfield is that they’re protecting the back 4 and we now have the best defensive record in the league. We’ve stopped shipping goals, Arbroath aside, and it means there’s another 4 players in the team that can mostly concentrate on scoring. That’s my overriding memory of Grayson. Far too often he would make a pass and not put himself in a position to receive the ball back again, especially in situations where he may get crunched. In terms of controlling the ball / technique I think Grayson probably is ahead of Macguire but I personally think Macguire gives so much more to the team, not least in terms of his running, tackling, determination and positioning. Edited February 14 by Shadow Play 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 BBC website saying McPake is being linked with the Motherwell job. He’s done well at Dunfermline in the third tier of Scottish football but after how he did at Dens does the short time he’s been at Dunfermline merit a Premiership club? Article says the club have received over a hundred applications for the vacant post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 31 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: BBC website saying McPake is being linked with the Motherwell job. He’s done well at Dunfermline in the third tier of Scottish football but after how he did at Dens does the short time he’s been at Dunfermline merit a Premiership club? Article says the club have received over a hundred applications for the vacant post. Whilst he's done well enough with Dunfermline I doubt if he's yet been able to bury his time at Dens. Of course, it may be that as we were closer to the situation we saw things much more negatively than others, and he did garner a fair bit of sympathy when fired, so who knows? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, hk blues said: Whilst he's done well enough with Dunfermline I doubt if he's yet been able to bury his time at Dens. Of course, it may be that as we were closer to the situation we saw things much more negatively than others, and he did garner a fair bit of sympathy when fired, so who knows? Man was dreadful and no amount of time will make that change. He can go wherever, but never back at Dens (or nou campy). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Crawford said: Man was dreadful and no amount of time will make that change. He can go wherever, but never back at Dens (or nou campy). Never say never. I don't see why we wouldn't take him back if he proves himself to be a successful manager in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikethedee Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Does anyone have a screenshot of the time a Man Utd fan suggested him as a potential manager there, after he took us up via the playoffs???!!! That cheered me up whenever I needed it for a good long while... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 11 hours ago, Spikethedee said: Does anyone have a screenshot of the time a Man Utd fan suggested him as a potential manager there, after he took us up via the playoffs???!!! That cheered me up whenever I needed it for a good long while... About as wild as when Bain fell up the career ladder and ended up at Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mychurch Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Mistakes are the best way to learn, so the McPake of today would be a much better manager for us than the one we had. If he is smart he should skip any attention from Motherwell and stay where he is. We may not think much of Dunfermline, but they are potentially a premier league club, as are Falkirk, and he should get the promotion first and then look around. I imagine the finances of Scottish football are such that the difference between the 2 jobs is it not life changing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The outside world seem to look at McPake's spell in charge of us very, very differently and on a pretty positive note. Even @Div was at it on Twitter the other day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee-FC92 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The appointment of McPake was completely catastrophic and we're still largely in the hangover from his term with multiple diddies on long contracts. Only this summer can we finally rid ourselves of his tenure. Shambolic manager for us although having said that, all the best in his future career - he will most likely improve along the road, there's certainly a hell of a lot for him to improve on. Thank you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pens_Dark Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I still reckon Mcpake will go on to be a decent enough manager. I just can't figure out what level that will be at. He certainly doesn't deserve a shot at a premiership team right now. His promotion season with us was actually a good achievement in my eyes having to deal with a team in Hearts that were just miles ahead. Not many teams come up via the playoffs and putting Killie to the sword at the end of a really decent run to the end of that season was pleasing. Having said all that his premiership season with us was nothing short of a joke. Signing old mates on big wages and generally showing his tactical inadequacies and missing countless chances to stay in the league. Couple that together with a board that at the time were frankly anonymous and it was a recipe for disaster. I mean...the club then brought in Mark fucking Mcghee and didn't even bother to check whether he had a touchline ban or not. What a minter. I'd love to see how a premiership season would differ with Bowyer in charge. Hopefully and expectedly next. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Have fond memories of James, mainly for the late equaliser against the fuds that sent them onto the death spiral. The managerial shenanigins? Not so much. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Good read from BBC detailing what Bowyer said in our pre-match press conference, talks about how much he's embraced both Scottish football and the country itself since moving up. Like most though, he's not too keen on the current league setup regarding the frequency of facing off against the same teams. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64656196 As for team news, Ryan Clampin has trained this week but tomorrow is a wait-and-see on him, Gowser has had a week of full training though Bowyer still only says that he's "going the right way", and aside from French and Sheridan everyone else is available. Edited February 16 by RossBFaeDundee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 If I had to sum that game up in one word it would be "impotent". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 What can you say about that match tonight? Very few positives but I thought Mulligan and Kerr were two of our better players. I know a few were wanting Williamson to start. He came on at half time and I’m not sure he could have complained if he wasn’t allowed to finish the game. I think Bowyer is right not to consider him as a regular starter. I’m not convinced he likes it when it’s against a physical team that closes down the opposition quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peadar BigDinnerO'Driscoll Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Painful stuff. Robinson or Jak can't play upfront on their own. Not sure why McCowan doesn't come on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) You know how bad we were when Cammy Kerr is our best outfield player. McMullan was dreadful, Cameron not much better - McGhee was posted misisng for huge chunks of that game. I felt sorry for Jakubiak then Robinson because they got f**k all support and service. You have to ask what we do in training because it can't be shooting or crossing. Edited February 17 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanPartridge Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Thought Cameron was our best player, that miss though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 c**t seek of the continual brain dead performances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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