eckthearab Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Ffs lads, just a tad embarrassing eh? Don't really need to say owt else x 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravabelli Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 20 minutes ago, srw said: Dundee are almost certainly out of the cup, and its not even August yet, absolutely comical. FFS, what shite will Hartley spout this time. He'll say his usual...."that wasn't good enough" or "that's no acceptable" Aw he ever sez 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Did Forfar winning tonight not do us a favour? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, ravabelli said: He'll say his usual...."that wasn't good enough" or "that's no acceptable" Aw he ever sez What would you expect him, or any other self-respecting manager to say? He can't exactly hang them out to dry. Managers have limited options in press interviews and I don't know why fans get so upset about them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Litt Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I don't want Hartley gone and think on the whole he's done a decent job since he started but what srw's said is hardly ridiculous. It's a complete and utter joke of a result and Hartley will rightly be criticised for it. Some folk seem hell bent on defending him no matter what 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Hi lads, how are things in the big league? A never ending run of success, I assume? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Louis Litt said: I don't want Hartley gone and think on the whole he's done a decent job since he started but what srw's said is hardly ridiculous. It's a complete and utter joke of a result and Hartley will rightly be criticised for it. Some folk seem hell bent on defending him no matter what It is tbh. Slating Hartley as a manager is simply ridiculous. There's a difference between hounding him for this utter cluster f**k of a start to a season and hounding him in general. It's as if some (And I'm not saying srw is one) want him to fail. That much is clear when you look at the forums. There's plenty of Dundee fans that thrive on misery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Litt Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: It is tbh. Slating Hartley as a manager is simply ridiculous. There's a difference between hounding him for this utter cluster f**k of a start to a season and hounding him in general. It's as if some (And I'm not saying srw is one) want him to fail. That much is clear when you look at the forums. There's plenty of Dundee fans that thrive on misery. You're always going to find stupid opinions on forums, it's the same for every team. As I said I don't want him gone but as a team we underachieved last season which was masked over by Relegation Monday and the poor displays tonight, against East Fife and on the first half on Saturday aren't showing progress . There's so much potential in this team to perform well in a league as poor as ours (2nd half on Saturday) but our defense is still holding us back and has been for about half a year, that lies with the manager. I don't know any Dundee fans who dislike the guy which is uncommon for us but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve criticism. Edited July 26, 2016 by Louis Litt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Litt Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, Sarto Mutiny said: Hi lads, how are things in the big league? A never ending run of success, I assume? Relegated at Dens Park m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Louis Litt said: You're always going to find stupid opinions on forums, it's the same for every team. As I said I don't want him gone but as a team we underachieved last season which was masked over by Relegation Monday and the poor displays tonight, against East Fife and on the first half on Saturday aren't showing progress . There's so much potential in this team to perform well in a league as poor as ours (2nd half on Saturday) but our defense is still holding us back and has been for about half a year, that lies with the manager. I don't know any Dundee fans who dislike the guy which is uncommon for us but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve criticism. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve criticism. I think he's completely misjudged the balance between getting players minutes and treating these games seriously and we've been severely punished for that. He doesn't deserve, and I'm expecting to see it appear at some point soon - people to be calling for his head after it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 19 minutes ago, Sarto Mutiny said: Hi lads, how are things in the big league? Erm, the Premiership hasn't kicked off yet but given that your playing your football in the Championship this season I can see how you've made your mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm beginning to wonder if Hartley is clued up enough about the art of defending or if he can actually 'pick' a central defender. We've signed about 8 bombscares on the bounce and they seem completely clueless about how to defend as a unit. Rather than signing more mediocrity maybe we need a bloody good defensive coach to better organise the resources we have. I'm not calling for the man's head or anything remotely close to that but a decent cup run is very important to us on many levels. We were gifted an easy draw and we have completely blown it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Did Forfar winning tonight not do us a favour? No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Erm, the Premiership hasn't kicked off yet but given that your playing your football in the Championship this season I can see how you've made your mistake. Dunno. I have heard that the really difficult teams are in League One. Still, I am sure a big team like Dundee would have no problems dealing with teams of that calibre though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gener Al Zod Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 18 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: It is tbh. Slating Hartley as a manager is simply ridiculous. There's a difference between hounding him for this utter cluster f**k of a start to a season and hounding him in general. It's as if some (And I'm not saying srw is one) want him to fail. That much is clear when you look at the forums. There's plenty of Dundee fans that thrive on misery. 100% Agree with this, as embarrassing as some of the football has been, at this stage it's absolutely mental to be punishing Hartley. Some of the stuff being hurled at players at the East Fife game and the Dumbarton game is just downright bizarre. Never did understand the philosophy of calling someone a f**king idiot to improve performance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatAchievament95 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 In all honesty the results are disappointing there's no denying that but we still have a full season to play. No point in writing the season off already. I think some of the fans criticising and moaning need to remember where we have been the past decade. Will never forget standing on the terraces watching our team with griffiths and Harkins getting beat by Cowdenbeath then going into administration again shortly after. Compare that to now and tell me we've not made progress 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Reading elsewhere that Greg Stewart 'Sssh'ed' our fans when he scored and Paul McGowan at the end was shouting at fans saying that some boys are actually scared to do anything with the ball out of fear of the abuse they'll receive if they misplace it etc. We can say we're as bad as everyone else, we can say 'we pay our money, we're entitled to vent' and we can say 'they deserved it', but what we can't say, is that it helps anyone at our club. Gives us a poor reputation as fans, and doesn't inspire the players to do well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Totally agree Ludo. Our fans are always so quick to get on the backs of anyone struggling, it can't ever possibly help. I go to games in support of my team and that's exactly what I do - support them. Imagine verbally abusing someone on your football team, what support is that?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Every single year I say this cup is an embarrassment and I personally could not give two fucks about it. Every single year people get their knickers in a massive bunch about going out of it. Every year (the last three) we've had decent enough seasons come the end. Edited July 27, 2016 by Deeboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatAchievament95 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The league has to be the main priority for us as it is one of the main sources of our playing budget. If McGowan yesterday was saying players are afraid to misplace a pass because of the fans as is rumoured then he's totally right to get angry, in the -25 point season when the team went 1-0 down the fans didn't boo, they motivated the team. Why in the past few seasons does every pass or dribble that doesn't quite work warrant the player getting slated? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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