Musketeer Gripweed Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Mmm...tying yourself to your share of trillions of debt with no conceivable way of paying it back. And the yes campaign still couldn't convince 55% of voters to vote for them. Perhaps, instead of blaming people who voted no, you should ask why yes lost, given the statistic you have posted. The campaign failed, what could they have done better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Grow up. This is the real world, not Alex Salmond's utopia of bullshit. *shite clappy hands thing* Oh dear. No ideas then. Done the sensible thing eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroZeppelin Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 In the real world the UK is 1.4 trillion pounds in debt and rising every second. That's the safety and security of a larger union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 And the yes campaign still couldn't convince 55% of voters to vote for them. Perhaps, instead of blaming people who voted no, you should ask why yes lost, given the statistic you have posted. The campaign failed, what could they have done better? Fully agree. When the dust is shaken off and the pain heals. I have no doubt the campaign will be poured over in detail. The argument is their. At the base level Scotland is wealthier than the UK. Message delivery and target audience are the key. The next campaign will have to be stronger. 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Date of their choosing, question framed to suit them, an apparent fantastic groundswell of support, momentum, Tory government at Westminster, austerity, activism, a bad no campaign, best politicians, voting age changed to suit them, a 3 year campaign The yes camp had all of the above and still failed. 2,001,926 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I'm not gonna beat around the bush or act like I'm not bothered purely to save face. I am absolutely distraught. I can't believe we've not taken that chance. I feel like someone's ripped my soul out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracowjambo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I feel really sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Date of their choosing, question framed to suit them, an apparent fantastic groundswell of support, momentum, Tory government at Westminster, austerity, activism, a bad no campaign, best politicians, voting age changed to suit them, a 3 year campaign The yes camp had all of the above and still failed. 2,001,926 It failed because people like you are shitebags. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Date of their choosing, question framed to suit them, an apparent fantastic groundswell of support, momentum, Tory government at Westminster, austerity, activism, a bad no campaign, best politicians, voting age changed to suit them, a 3 year campaign The yes camp had all of the above and still failed. 2,001,926 The real arseholes can be traced in the way they're bragging about it... Even H-bloody-B has been semi-bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 It failed because people like you are shitebags. HTH. No Tubbs ain't. He is a dyed in the wool brit nat. However the vast majority of that 2 million were either scared or misinformed. Over the next months and years the steady slog to get over the facts will continue. We lost the battle......you know the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Dan Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's like the day after Diana died or the day after 9/11 all over again , for me it's like the strange feeling I had the day after Kenny Shiels got sacked . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 No Tubbs ain't. He is a dyed in the wool brit nat. However the vast majority of that 2 million were either scared or misinformed. Over the next months and years the steady slog to get over the facts will continue. We lost the battle......you know the rest. See, that's the correct attitude. All this hatred and blaming folk for what has happened in the past is achieving nothing. If you want to actually be successful in the future, you plan had better be more than cold winters for pensioners like some are advocating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracowjambo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 See, that's the correct attitude. All this hatred and blaming folk for what has happened in the past is achieving nothing. If you want to actually be successful in the future, you plan had better be more than cold winters for pensioners like some are advocating. It's ok we don't need cold winters we've got care homes to bump the c***s off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 you plan had better be more than cold winters for pensioners like some are advocating. If the theory is correct that the 4/32 areas voting 'Yes' was due to deprivation, if anything the nationalist policy should be worsening poverty in Scotland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sparky88 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The referendum confirmed what I thought.... That the true Tory vote is far higher. It explains why places like Perth had solid noes despite voting snp_- Tories voting tactically to keep out labour then voting no. The yes campaign of no privatisation of NHS and vote yes keep Tories out forever was never going to convince these folks to vote yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 If the theory is correct that the 4/32 areas voting 'Yes' was due to deprivation, if anything the nationalist policy should be worsening poverty in Scotland...ward counts will tell us the real story re this I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Grow up. This is the real world, not Alex Salmond's utopia of bullshit. *shite clappy hands thing* And the No vote's working really well so far isn't it? Better together types showing their class in George Square, Better Together MP's shaftin us tae f**k. You must have one sore arse if you enjoy gettin shafted that much. Freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ward counts will tell us the real story re this I think Quite possibly. It is an interesting effect though. I think very few people would have imagined, before the results came in, that 28 out of 32 local authorities would be 'No' and only 4 would be 'Yes'. Also, that of the 4 wins for 'Yes' only Dundee was into the higher 50%s. There are other interesting aspects... why were Glasgow & Dundee's turnouts that bit lower? What happened in the Western Isles? What made many central-belt areas so strongly 'No' (60%+). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 And the yes campaign still couldn't convince 55% of voters to vote for them. Perhaps, instead of blaming people who voted no, you should ask why yes lost, given the statistic you have posted. The campaign failed, what could they have done better? Borrow the establishment propaganda machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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