milton75 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 You did say however that Aberdeen is far less entertaining than anywhere else when it just didn't have your niche type of club. Somewhere like Aberdeen is never going to have everything that the nation's biggest city has of course but what you've done is similar to me saying that Glasgow is far less entertaining than anywhere else in the UK because it doesn't have the type of big clubs which you could go to all the time if you studied in London. True, but I'm not so convinced. Once you get to a certain size, it's much of a muchness, as different nights will specialise. The key is having a critical mass that sustains a reasonable expectation of individuality (as yes - I am aware I'm being wanky about it). But anyway, it's not all about nightlife, but I do think it makes a bit of a difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I didn't say that private was the same price but this seems incredibly exaggerated. It's all about being able to play the game which you can when you live there, knowing which bars do which deals on which nights etc rather than the ones you probably go to now. What self respecting student buys a car anyway?! Finding a room through ASPC / Citylets etc was always an expensive nightmare anyway, it was all about Gumtree, adverts around the uni, word of mouth and so on. Soooo much cheaper. Prices haven't changed that much since I graduated and jumped straight into work. As for shopping, is a weekly shop in Morrisons or something from a clothes shop in Aberdeen any more expensive than the same stuff in from a store in Glasgow? I think you're getting a bit carried away tbh. Tip for any Aberdeen student btw: the numerous charity shops are treasure troves with rich folk constantly moving throwing stuff out. I don't live in Aberdeen any more. And it's hardly fair comparing it to where I currently am.... Anyway, yes, average shopping is more expensive. Bars are certainly more expensive. It's not prohibitive, considering I earned a lot more in Aberdeen, but for a student I imagine it would be. I eventually got a good deal on spareroom, but when you're working and looking for a property canvassing the compass isn't exactly an option. We can have differing opinions, but especially if you do an Engineering degree (and are likely ending up in Aberdeen anywhere) experience somewhere else when you get the chance. Also, provided I'm still young enough, if I ever return to Aberdeen might take a week off for freshers week. I do miss the mid week sesh. Unfortunately, even if I pass as young enough the company I keep probably won't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think he fancies staying in another town/city. Understandable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 anyway, it's not all about nightlife, but I do think it makes a bit of a difference. Something I've been pondering on through the thread. I personally think that i) too many folk get influenced by their choice of uni based on this and ii) that it should only be a bonus that comes with the most suitable uni for your needs. Even if somebody established the University of Cupar, students would still be able to get a night out in Dundee if they stuck on a night bus and so on. This is looking back on my own experiences however after dealing with the finances. My 17 or 18 year old self would probably see it different. Worst case scenario: don't go to uni, get a wage / work experience in ahead of them and go and stay at your schoolmates student flats dotted around the country for the same nights out for the fee of buying them a round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Also, if he's looking for some adventure places like Denmark and the Netherlands offer University, in English, for very reasonable tuition fees. Might be worth a look. Kids straight out of school usually don't have the guts for it, I'm pretty sure I didn't. You can also get student support from SAAS to study in some of these places now: http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Education/PortabilityPilot If I was doing it now, I'd look into something like this. Hell, I'd love to do it now but assume SAAS don't help with second courses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 St Andrews or Edinburgh for Arts subjects. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 As for the question itself, you can surely strike Aberdeen off the list? It's incredibly expensive and far less entertaining than pretty much anywhere else. Great place for looking for jobs, but as a student? Not even remotely. I'd recommend he goes to Edinburgh (objectively the best in Scotland), with the second choice of Glasgow. I actually briefly studied history at university because I was really enjoyed it at school, but soon dropped it as it got far less interesting at Uni. Bizarrely, we had two one semester courses, one covering 800-1500 and the other covering 1500-2000. Learned in 12 one hour lectures and 7 one hour seminars That would be the standard fail for a department that tries to cover all its bases for the first year class. It's far from the worst example though: in the US there is a widespread requirement to provide a 'World History' course - particularly for students who plan to become high school teachers and need a broader background to teach history. The first one-hour lecture they had at my institution was 'The evolution of man to the Stone Age', and by way of two one-hour lectures a week they then steamed through 10,000 BC to 1500AD in three months, trying to detail the rise and decline of every major civilisation in the world. Strangely, the students didn't seem to get much out of this. At Strathclyde first year history is c.1800-1914 British history, which is hardly the most exciting topic but has a shitload of issues to discuss in detail and resources for students to actually come out of it with a reasonable understanding of what happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Glasgow or Edinburgh. Although I'm shocked that people are suggesting the Edinburgh nightlife as a positive of going there, I've been on a lot of nights out there with mates that go to Edinburgh and the nightlife seemed dreadful, certainly in comparison to Glasgow. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Stirling Uni is where I went and I loved every second of it. The campus is second to none. Yes, I can understand that. Given the choice between "none" and Stirling Uni, I'd also choose the former. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Aberdeen is no way more expensive for a night out than Glasgow or Edinburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Aberdeen is no way more expensive for a night out than Glasgow or Edinburgh. As with anywhere, it's entirely dependent on where you go. You can just see the P&B professionals up in Aberdeen on work business walking out of their hotel and wandering down to the student bars with workmates of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The research skills you get from a history degree stand you in good stead for any research-based job, and anything that involves bringing together a lot of resarch/data to come to come up with a coherently written and well argued report. This can apply to quite a wide range of sectors. With degrees like history, politics etc for most people it'll be about developing transferable skills and being able to demonstrate to employers that you'll be able to put them to good use in work situations. Comparatively few people will either remain in academia or get a job in a sector in which history as an academic discipline will be directly relevant, but it certainly increases your employability. Afterwards, how well you do with your career will depend on being able to demonstrate once in actual employment that you've actually gained genuine skills which you're able to put to good use. Plus a History degree is very useful if you want to go to #france 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Plus a History degree is very useful if you want to go to #franceHistory and French is a dece undergrad degree. #acareemia #MASSters Edited October 28, 2014 by Creepy Lurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) History and French is a dece undergrad degree. #acareemia #MASSters Thinking of following up my #marketzing degree with a #postLADuate m9. ETA: Does anyone know if you can get a degree in lifting these days? If not, that'd be a Dece policy for sure if education was one our responsibilities. Edited October 29, 2014 by Guest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yes, I can understand that. Given the choice between "none" and Stirling Uni, I'd also choose the former. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I studied English at Glasgow and loved it.An interesting topic to make your first post on P&B in 8 years in. A few people have mentioned Glasgow and that would be my first choice as no need for digs, decent uni and such but I think he fancies staying in another town/city.I don't know what sort of personality your boy's got on him but my suggestion would be to move away to get the best out of the whole experience. That would be the standard fail for a department that tries to cover all its bases for the first year class. It's far from the worst example though: in the US there is a widespread requirement to provide a 'World History' course - particularly for students who plan to become high school teachers and need a broader background to teach history. The first one-hour lecture they had at my institution was 'The evolution of man to the Stone Age', and by way of two one-hour lectures a week they then steamed through 10,000 BC to 1500AD in three months, trying to detail the rise and decline of every major civilisation in the world. Strangely, the students didn't seem to get much out of this. At Strathclyde first year history is c.1800-1914 British history, which is hardly the most exciting topic but has a shitload of issues to discuss in detail and resources for students to actually come out of it with a reasonable understanding of what happened. English at Strathclyde had two classes in first year each semester that were a mixture of stuff, then the core classes in 2nd & 3rd went from Enlightenment to Romanticism, Literature Critical Theory... something else I'm forgetting, Victorian Literature, 20th Century Literature, then with option classes in various areas in 3rd & 4th. Same premise as yours, I imagine it's more interesting and more beneficial when a subject has a history of things to cover like this to have some sort of clear progression through the history rather than a mixture with no order or trying to cram centuries worth of stuff into a week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGR Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I went to Edinburgh and while it had its fair share of total wanks, I also had a pretty great time there. If I had to choose again it'd probably be between there and Glasgow. This. I went to Edinburgh too, and as TBR says there are wanks, quite a few of them; but there are plenty of sound folk also. I think Edinburgh gets quite a harsh reputation - the majority of people I've met are not wanks. The nightlife is shit though. Glasgow will always have that over Edinburgh. Aberdeen is even better than the capital. Edited October 29, 2014 by CGR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdsm Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) An interesting topic to make your first post on P&B in 8 years in. I know - I am the classic lurker. Don't know what prompted me to post. I really did love my MAarts at Glasgow. Great lectures, brilliant library. Edited October 29, 2014 by amdsm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thinking of following up my #marketzing degree with a #postLADuate m9. ETA: Does anyone know if you can get a degree in lifting these days? If not, that'd be a Dece policy for sure if education was one our responsibilities. I'm currently doing an MLift in French Lifterature if that helps bro #benchlifteraturemorelike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest honestrae95 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Here's a novel idea- let him decide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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