Monkey Tennis Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Aye maybe that programme done him a disservice, he did seem to really get caught up in the 'living the dream thing'. I think he probably did, but he wasn't alone. It did seem to prove seductive to people as the money just seemed to make the progress so smooth. Mileson's own wealth seemed bottomless and his intentions appeared philanthropic, if a bit egocentric. It was never romantic or David/Goliath stuff though and it was that kind of lazy portrayal that was so galling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 The programme seemed heavily romanticised to me. I remember watching that final they were in and being surprised at how much I enjoyed it when they lost on penalties. I thought Deuchar came across as a bit of a dimwit as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I`ve always thought of Grady as a wee naff but as i say thought he came across OK on the programme. I met Tosh when he was at Gretna and he was great fun, absolutely up for a good laugh. Delighted when we signed him and thought he was superb for us. He'd be very good entertainment if he posted on here. 'The Juniors shouldn't be in the cup' was a brilliant display of trolling. I felt bad for the players and fans who were there at the end when it was pretty obvious it was terminal, some Uruguayan lad got released because they couldn't pay for his cruciate ligament treatment. Their celebrations against Hearts showed how much it meant to them. Strange to think that Kyle Naughton is playing Premier League football six years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 . It was weird, because several perfectly decent people were involved and I think the experience scarred them. Indeed there were, including the guy I was alluding to. A real shame the whole episode occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 He'd be very good entertainment if he posted on here. 'The Juniors shouldn't be in the cup' was a brilliant display of trolling. I felt bad for the players and fans who were there at the end when it was pretty obvious it was terminal, some Uruguayan lad got released because they couldn't pay for his cruciate ligament treatment. Their celebrations against Hearts showed how much it meant to them. Strange to think that Kyle Naughton is playing Premier League football six years later. Indeed it was, top class. It was especially good given the response of some that we had no chance of making any impact in the tournament only for us to go on a run to the final for the first and quite possibly only time ever. Edit for typing incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGQ FAE KDY Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I hated gretna with a passion and wasnt too disappointed when they went to the wall.Horrible arrogant little club who had players that gloated at the money they made and this was during games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince sinclair Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It must have been magic for the few actual diehards who travelled to Dingwall that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Indeed it was, top class. It was especially good given the response of some that we had no chance of making any impact in the tournament only for us to go on a run to the final for the first and quite possibly only time ever. time I have a good feeling about this year For the record, Our cup run > Their Cup run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Beating them 0-4 the day they made their SPL bow at Fir park ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueminer Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 It was a cracking train dayExcellent train day via Carlisle. Even better when we beat them down there thanks to a Bryan Gilfillan goal. Got quite drunk that day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Conversely Queens in some ways ultimately benefited when it started to go tits up being able to sign players like Tosh, McQuilken, Macfarlane and Aitken who all reached a cup final and Europe with us.The first three, yes, absolutely. Aitken though was with us before and returned to us before it all went tits up. I wouldn't include him in that group.I've said before though that Gretna ultimately ended up being good for us. The attempt to undermine our support through the schools galvanised both club and supporters to do far more than before. Their ultimate demise left us inheriting a few crucial players. It was in many ways the spark that ignited where we are now. There's also an interesting angle in how 'new' everyone regards Gretna 2008 to be, even though they wear black and white and play at Raydale. Rangers however, must be regarded as the same outfit as that which went tits up, largely on the basis of wearing blue and playing at Ibrox.That's because the people at Gretna 2008 went out of their way to emphasise that they are a different club. They didn't want direct association with the way Mileson's lot ended. If Gretna wanted to claim the history and continuation of the old club they could. It's their approach which is fairly unique. Not Rangers. Rangers are not the first reformed club to claim a previous incarnation's history, they won't be the last (though they are undeniably the most precious about it). The whole episode was decidedly odd. I too wished them well in their earlier days. I remember them visiting Bolton in the FA Cup at one point and giving them a Hell of a fright. When they got into the Scottish League and scored, nineteen seconds into their first match, it also represented a feel-good story. The trouble with the Mileson thing was the dishonesty of it all. This myth that they hadn't merely bought success was an absolute insult to the intelligence of each observer. In the BBC documentary of the time, the hubris was astonishing. It was weird, because several perfectly decent people were involved and I think the experience scarred them. When it blew up, it was actually less satisfying than I'd envisaged. There was something sad about the death of a little club that had spent most if its history serving its community. The glory hunters from the area that we scorned, would have been pretty unbruised by the demise of something they'd only fleetingly invested in. A really weird little story all round. This, other than the fact that I found the blow up entirely satisfying. They'd long since ceased to be a little community club. The whole "we haven't bought success, we just pay players what we think they are worth and they come to work with Rowan" nonsense that Mileson used to peddle and the press used to lap up was vomit inducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Is this available anywhere online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The first three, yes, absolutely. Aitken though was with us before and returned to us before it all went tits up. I wouldn't include him in that group. Agreed. I only really included AA because I thought if I didn`t someone would highlight him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Is this available anywhere online? http://www.footballorgin.com/2014/11/tv-show-documentary-club-that-vanished.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I felt bad for the players and fans who were there at the end when it was pretty obvious it was terminal, some Uruguayan lad got released because they couldn't pay for his cruciate ligament treatment. Fabio Yantorno, he got signed by Hibs. I think he probably did, but he wasn't alone. It did seem to prove seductive to people as the money just seemed to make the progress so smooth. Mileson's own wealth seemed bottomless and his intentions appeared philanthropic, if a bit egocentric. Mileson also 'gave' a lot of money to Supporters Trusts and fan groups. I recall he gave £ to Berwick's ST, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza81 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Just watched it, Davie Irons is a total cretin of a man. He doesn't care that so many people were fucked out of money as it 'was a man's dream' and he did it instead of buying a yacht ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Fabio Yantorno, he got signed by Hibs. Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I enjoyed pumping out them of the League Cup and Scottish Cup in the 2006/07 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRubberFist Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 They saw the edge of the cliff approaching fast, yet they kept their collective foot on the gas. F***ing cretinous fraudulent b**tards. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/football/gretna-make-1-9m-loss-1.295518 GRETNA MAKE £1.9M LOSS Published at 00:00, Thursday, 16 November 2006 GRETNA Football Club lost nearly £2 million in the last financial year, according to the latest figures. The ambitious Borderers – currently top of the Scottish First Division – are being bankrolled by Carlisle-based millionaire Brooks Mileson as they “live the dream” of reaching the Scottish Premier League. And the club’s chief executive Graeme Muir told News & Star Sport there were no concerns about the £1.9 million loss for the financial year ending May 2005. He said: “We have always said we are not in this to make a profit. That (£2 million) is the amount of investment that has gone into the club thanks to the generosity of our owner (Mileson). “We have done some restructuring to at the club to look at how it runs in the future. “But if you are involved in football, that is the reality. We have been to the Scottish Cup final, played in Europe and are on the verge of the SPL,” said Muir. “That is the type of investment Brooks has put in. It is down to the generosity of the guy. “You don’t come into football to make a profit. “The only thing he has got back is a heck of a lot of personal enjoyment. “Rangers are £72m in debt – that is the level we are going into.” Gretna, who used to play in the UniBond League, are seeking a third successive championship which would give them promotion to the SPL. Mileson has introduced £1.9 million to assist replayment of the club’s liabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qos1996 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 f**k them. horrible team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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