Muzza81 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I remember they had a striker Gary Cohen - who was a cheating diving c**t. We gave him it stinking for being a cheat and he went to the paper claiming racial abuse. 'We're not racist you're a cheat' was the tag line that followed that. Of course the Airdrie fans who had similar issues delt with it in their own way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 They saw the edge of the cliff approaching fast, yet they kept their collective foot on the gas. F***ing cretinous fraudulent b**tards. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/football/gretna-make-1-9m-loss-1.295518GRETNA MAKE £1.9M LOSS Published at 00:00, Thursday, 16 November 2006 GRETNA Football Club lost nearly £2 million in the last financial year, according to the latest figures. The ambitious Borderers – currently top of the Scottish First Division – are being bankrolled by Carlisle-based millionaire Brooks Mileson as they “live the dream” of reaching the Scottish Premier League. And the club’s chief executive Graeme Muir told News & Star Sport there were no concerns about the £1.9 million loss for the financial year ending May 2005. He said: “We have always said we are not in this to make a profit. That (£2 million) is the amount of investment that has gone into the club thanks to the generosity of our owner (Mileson). “We have done some restructuring to at the club to look at how it runs in the future. “But if you are involved in football, that is the reality. We have been to the Scottish Cup final, played in Europe and are on the verge of the SPL,” said Muir. “That is the type of investment Brooks has put in. It is down to the generosity of the guy. “You don’t come into football to make a profit. “The only thing he has got back is a heck of a lot of personal enjoyment. “Rangers are £72m in debt – that is the level we are going into.” Gretna, who used to play in the UniBond League, are seeking a third successive championship which would give them promotion to the SPL. Mileson has introduced £1.9 million to assist replayment of the club’s liabilities. Wow. Such arrogance. Especially in retrospect the use of Rangers as an example to give context and to justify the whole sorry affair is absolutely priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I remember they had a striker Gary Cohen - who was a cheating diving c**t. We gave him it stinking for being a cheat and he went to the paper claiming racial abuse. 'We're not racist you're a cheat' was the tag line that followed that. Of course the Airdrie fans who had similar issues delt with it in their own way... Catchy I have no memory of Gretna. They were a nonentity of a club who died long before anybody really cared about them, leaving a lot of people in a financial mess in the process. Irons attitude where he didn't seem to care about the businesses they put out of business didn't surprise. What a horrendously unlikeable man. My Mum works with James Grady's wife and I gave him my 2004 SPL sticker album (when he played with Thistle) a wee while back. That's my only real connection with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 That's because the people at Gretna 2008 went out of their way to emphasise that they are a different club. They didn't want direct association with the way Mileson's lot ended. If Gretna wanted to claim the history and continuation of the old club they could. It's their approach which is fairly unique. Not Rangers. Rangers are not the first reformed club to claim a previous incarnation's history, they won't be the last (though they are undeniably the most previous about it). Well, yes and no. Gretna' s mature realism is not unique. The re-born Airdrie had a new badge and new name for goodness' sake. Middlesbrough's new badge had '1986' on it for several years. I've no desire to get into a bigger New club argument, but it's more complicated than your 'Walks like a duck' test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Do people think that Mileson withdrew his support due to 1 Health 2 Ran out of money 3 Realized whole thing getting outta control. 4 lost interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Do people think Mileson pulled the plug because.. 1 Health 2 Ran outta money 3 Realised getting too expensive 4 lost interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Do people think Mileson pulled the plug because.. 1 Health 2 Ran outta money 3 Realised getting too expensive 4 lost interest All of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ok...see above...let me try it another way (im in England and saw this on sky and am genuinely fascinated by the tale)....did Mileson have money in the first place ? What and when was the tipping point ? Was fallout with the manager over money ? Why was Mick Wadsworth brought in ? ( he has never achieved much ) When it was going wrong Mileson just seemed to vanish from what i have read ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover the Moon Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 No surprise the Hearts fans were applauding Gretna before and after the cup final. Two clubs and two owners living way beyond their means and deluded fans falling for it. Perfect match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I've always felt there's a bit of hypocrisy regarding Gretna- had Mileson come in and spent money at say, Albion Rovers, would there have been the level of seethe generated? Gretna were elected into the League before Mileson came in, beating Gala Fairydean, Preston Athletic, Cove Rangers, Huntly and Edinburgh City to a league place. They also beat Airdrie United, perhaps some seethe comes from that fact too. Interesting comments by the Queens fans as local rivals- when we used to play Annan in the East of Scotland League their crowds were affected by Gretna's success and they used to moan about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan-bufc Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I've always felt there's a bit of hypocrisy regarding Gretna- had Mileson come in and spent money at say, Albion Rovers, would there have been the level of seethe generated? Probably yes. Their supporters might have got a bit more sympathy in the end as oppose to the ones that jumped on the bandwaggon with Gretna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I remember being absolutely SEETHING after they beat us 0-2 at the Rock in a midweek game the season we were relegated. Can't really remember why I was SEETHING mind, possibly because Dumbarton were shite under Paul Martin and were relegated a month later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Is it still available on Sky on demand? I tried to look it up on Skygo on the laptop but it doesn't appear to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Presumably Gretna's history is sitting there ready for anyone to buy for a pound !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 f**k Gretna! Even reading this thread has got me absolutely raging. They epitomised everything I despise about football, and made a mockery of the whole Scottish footballing setup in the process. Yet the media lapped it up in truly pathetic fashion. It was clear for anyone with eyes and a brain cell how it was going to end which was the only crumb of comfort for me when the whole circus was taking place (it also explains how Rowan "the gaffa" Alexander was clueless to it all) That would be TV gold. Remember that BBC documentary which was really boke inducing stuff which really had the rose tinted specs on. What ever happened to the guy who was general manager or what ever he didn't come across too well in that programme. That would be Graeme Muir who is quoted in an earlier post. He would give Davie Irons a run for his money in the smug p***k stakes. Odious little creature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I was at the 2006 Scottish Cup final. Got a ticket for the Gretna end and I remember not caring who won but hoping someone did in normal time so I could get back up the road to go to a birds house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 What was the reason Mileson and Alexander fell out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 What was the reason Mileson and Alexander fell out ? Things seemed to go pear shaped when Mick 'the tash' Wadsworth was appointed to be in overall charge of the football side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 After research i have concluded Mileson sent Wadsworth in to break things up...stop them getting to the SPL as he knew the money had ran out.It would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Some interesting posts about this. It's a pity the chat's spread across multiple threads and forums. Any chance they could be combined into this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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