pandarilla Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The social justice warrior hand-wringing and cognitive dissonance as hilariously real as ever Finally, an enlightened poster joins the debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Equality doesn't mean treating everyone the same, it means levelling the playing field so that everyone has a fair crack of the whip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Equality doesn't mean treating everyone the same, it means levelling the playing field so that everyone has a fair crack of the whip. A fair crack of the whip? A bit racist that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Finally, an enlightened poster joins the debate... Indeed. Unsurprised to see your usual brand of bigoted nonsense in here after your nightmares in the feminism and Ched Evans threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 http://londonist.com/2007/04/se_m.php It seems that even Nelson Mandela agreed that blacking up is not offensive, dependant on context. There is a lot of overly sensitive people in this world. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6521349.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 http://londonist.com/2007/04/se_m.php It seems that even Nelson Mandela agreed that blacking up is not offensive, dependant on context. There is a lot of overly sensitive people in this world. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6521349.stm Whoa, steady on son! We can't be having black people have a say on what is and isn't racist against black people. That's for white folk to hand-wring over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Whoa, steady on son! We can't be having black people have a say on what is and isn't racist against black people. That's for white folk to hand-wring over. I know, especially black people who sacrificed so much to fight for the equality of their race. What would he have known about the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 So you've just dismisses the whole historical context thing? Even though you've admitted that the point you made was not a legitimate comparison. I think you might be trolling but hey ho. 1. Jimmy hats are not as racist as blacking up. 2. We don't have equality, that's the whole point. 3. Dressing up to mock cultures depends entirely on the historical context (see nazi uniforms as a good example). With regards to the whole historical context thing, is there not a difference between the blacking up which the students did and genuine 'blackface' which seems to me to purposely have a comedy look to it with the purpose of mocking (having the exaggerated painted lips etc)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotownClic Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Whoa, steady on son! We can't be having black people have a say on what is and isn't racist against black people. That's for white folk to hand-wring over. So if I post a quote from a back person who finds it offensive, it would be ok for you a white person to tell him it isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 So if I post a quote from a back person who finds it offensive, it would be ok for you a white person to tell him it isn't? How do you know if I'm white or not? Regardless, whatever the tone of someone's skin it's certainly ok to question their views. Are you suggesting an approach where we do and don't ask questions based on skin colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 So if I post a quote from a back person who finds it offensive, it would be ok for you a white person to tell him it isn't? That post smacks of segregation. The colour of the person giving the opinion is irrelevant. It's the attitudes of the opinionated person which are relevant. I think we can all agree that Mr Mandela is regarded as and proven to be one of the worlds greatest ever minds and activists in bringing two cultures who were totally separated and in conflict and turning them into a nation of one people. I view Mr Mandela's opinion on the subject more highly than any on this thread, more highly than any of the academics dealing with the disciplinary actions in Stirling. The debate is over, the world's foremost mind on the subject of racial harmony said, before he died, that it is okay to dress up as someone from another race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 He also despised other races, of the black variety too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Haha. Banana - you are the very definition of the angry white man, 'we are a minority having our rights trampled!'. But it's ok, stoned sailor asked Mandela and so the debate is closed. Black face for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 With regards to the whole historical context thing, is there not a difference between the blacking up which the students did and genuine 'blackface' which seems to me to purposely have a comedy look to it with the purpose of mocking (having the exaggerated painted lips etc)? Yeah there clearly is. I think the notion is that the link is there and there's a sensitivity that needs to be respected. Forgive the pun, but this is not a black and white issue. Too many people on this thread (and in society in general) fail to see the complexities in life. They want a simple answer when quite often there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Haha. Banana - you are the very definition of the angry white man, 'we are a minority having our rights trampled!'. So in addition to your racism against white and black people in this thread, your trivialising of the actual real issue of slavery historically and today by taking pot-shots at some Scottish students who've coloured their face to watch the African Nations, you're now onto the hilariouslysadly predictable and pervasive tactic of male-hate white-hate bigotry in retreat, throwing out the 'angry white man' card when challenged Nightmare #3 well and truly under way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Pandarilla, I do not know you so would you mind explaining to me your credentials as far as race relations are concerned? I would like to make a decision on this subject based upon whether your opinion is more qualified than the opinion of Mandela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Nelson Mandela (or anyone else) isn't the spokesperson for the worldwide black community. Some people won't be offended, plenty will, it's still racist regardless and unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Nelson Mandela (or anyone else) isn't the spokesperson for the worldwide black community. Some people won't be offended, plenty will, it's still racist regardless and unacceptable. Nelson Mandela knew what real oppression, prejudice and racism were, through experience. That is why he knew that dressing up in a non derogatory way is not racism, it's a bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Yeah there clearly is. I think the notion is that the link is there and there's a sensitivity that needs to be respected. Forgive the pun, but this is not a black and white issue. Too many people on this thread (and in society in general) fail to see the complexities in life. They want a simple answer when quite often there isn't one. If I was to edit your post: I personally feel that too many people on this thread (and in society in general) want to create a link when there quite often isn't one. Quite often they are news reporters after a story, knowing fine well it will hit social media and be blown out of all proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 So in addition to your racism against white and black people in this thread, your trivialising of the actual real issue of slavery historically and today by taking pot-shots at some Scottish students who've coloured their face to watch the African Nations, you're now onto the hilariouslysadly predictable and pervasive tactic of male-hate white-hate bigotry in retreat, throwing out the 'angry white man' card when challenged Nightmare #3 well and truly under way. That's some pretty impressive achievements from me then eh? I'm doing something right at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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