MONKMAN Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hillary is leading the polls for South Carolina next week, and 10 of the 12 Super Tuesday states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hillary is leading the polls for South Carolina next week, and 10 of the 12 Super Tuesday states. true she is but if she wins the NOm i think the GOP candidate can beat her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 true she is but if she wins the NOm i think the GOP candidate can beat her Clinton will be the next president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 f**k off.Thanks for your considered response.I'll be sure to quote it the next time you make a tedious and pedantic reply regarding the exact definition of a particular word or phrase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSquid Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Clinton will be the next president. I'm not sure if that's more or less depressing than Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 So people are still buying into the logic that as more GOP candidates drop out, the remaining votes will start to consolidate to Cruz and Rubio? I can accept a larger share of the votes will transfer to them, but it's still not going to stop Trump from winning the nomination. The reason I say this is because looking at the demographic for Trump supporters who're voting in these primaries. I can't really stereotype them. Whereas someone like Sanders supporters can be stereotyped by age, typically the 45 and under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 So people are still buying into the logic that as more GOP candidates drop out, the remaining votes will start to consolidate to Cruz and Rubio? I can accept a larger share of the votes will transfer to them, but it's still not going to stop Trump from winning the nomination. The reason I say this is because looking at the demographic for Trump supporters who're voting in these primaries. I can't really stereotype them. Whereas someone like Sanders supporters can be stereotyped by age, typically the 45 and under. Whiter, maler, older, poorer and thicker than average: http://www.arbiternews.com/2016/01/06/demographics-of-donald-trump-supporters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The point is that it isn't as simple as Trump being the sole nutter against the rest, as the British media is spinning it. Three of the five remaining candidates (Trump, Cruz and Carson) are in the nutter camp, while two (Rubio and Kasich) could reasonably be viewed as mainstream. That means that as the field narrows Trump will also pick up support. If he does well on the so called Super Tuesday next week, he could be very difficult to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 If Cruz or Rubio had performed as strongly as Trump they'd be the clear and certain winner in the eyes of the media. That people still think Trump will fall seems to be based purely on him doing or saying something ridiculous that ruins his chances - but to be honest can he really say that much worse than he already has? Sanders had a lead of 55 points over Clinton in voters under 45 in Nevada, despite a narrow defeat. Obviously that won't quite transfer nationally but a hell of a lot of people just don't want her as President. She's still looking well on course to be the Democratic candidate (partly due to their ridiculous system) but will those voting Sanders just now turn out for her in the election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 watch it clinton will drop out and sanders will be the nom , sanders will win vs any GOP easy .. Clinton wont My own gut feeling is if Sanders did win then the GOP would try to turn him into another McGovern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Wouldn't be too hard given he makes no secret of being a socialist, which would normally be political suicuide in an American election. He got away with it in Vermont, because it's basically almost part of Canada. Think he has done enough that he pretty has to be the vice-presidential candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 I don't think that Clinton would pick Sanders as her running mate. In terms of appealing to voters who might otherwise vote Republican he doesn't bring much to the table. My guess would be a balanced ticket of someone young, male, and from outside the north east corner of the country. The betting favourite at the moment is Julian Castro. I don't know much about the guy, but he's 41 and apparently a rising star in the party. And also purely from an ethnic point of view he might be a smart pick if Rubio ends up with the Republican nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'd have thought she'd pick someone to the right who would have less trouble negotiating with moderate Republicans in the House. Don't know Julian but his second name might be a handicap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 My own gut feeling is if Sanders did win then the GOP would try to turn him into another McGovern. I think that's a very noble thing to be. I don't know if Sanders is the new McGovern, but Trump is not the new Dick Nixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'd have thought she'd pick someone to the right who would have less trouble negotiating with moderate Republicans in the House. Don't know Julian but his second name might be a handicap. There is a huge chunk of the Democratic party that clearly don't like Hilary. When a party is badly split it creates a need to shore up the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I think Rubio might just have a chance in Nevada. He went to school in Vegas and was baptised as a Mormon. The caucus electorate is small, 25% Morman last time around, and the Republican establishment seems to be uniting around him. Small punt at 7/1 at McBookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Pretty scary chart, it shows the collapse of the centre ground in terms of voting demographics. It at least explains why all the rhetoric coming from Democrats and Republicans are so extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Pretty scary chart, it shows the collapse of the centre ground in terms of voting demographics. It at least explains why all the rhetoric coming from Democrats and Republicans are so extreme. The only positive I take from that is that the Democrats appear to be moving to the left.* * By U.S. standards that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Trump wins Nevada with over 40% of the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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