Topscot Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 You must be about ten then, well past your bedtime young whippersnapper. You trying to say Killie weren't shite 10 years ago? [emoji23] -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CLANCY2KTID Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, Topscot said: You trying to say Killie weren't shite 10 years ago? You stated we have constantly been down the bottom of the league in your lifetime. I count 7 top half finishes and two national trophies in the last 20 years. I'm guessing you're too young to remember these achievements by your earlier comment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topscot Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 You stated we have constantly been down the bottom of the league in your lifetime. I count 7 top half finishes and two national trophies in the last 20 years. I'm guessing you're too young to remember these achievements by your earlier comment. I remember the Van Tornhout final well but I also remember Killie getting skellped off Hibs in a league cup final. 7 top half finishes in 20 years is pretty dismal for a team claiming to be the 6th biggest in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 9 hours ago, JamieH1869 said: Happyaccie scraping the bottom of the barrel here. His club in disarray while we appoint a premier league manager. Killie are the biggest provincial club in Scotland, one look at the history books will confirm that. Cumdog opens this can of worms and I get it in the neck cheers dumbass , however how the f**k do you define a big 6 club , looks like the responses have been formed on the clubs history.The logic applied by posters on here really does baffle me , if I am correct in the assumption they are using the clubs history as the rule of thumb to comprise the biggest 6 clubs in Scotland not one of them have mentioned that the list is bollocks , the top 5 listed Celtic , Sevco, Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibs and ?, debating who should be regarded as the 6th biggest, if by applying the aforementioned history to gain entry to the big 6 then surely sevco who have won 3 lower league titles and a cup tournament which SPL clubs are not permitted to enter should not qualify them as a big 6 club. I personally would have them in my big six because I would class the big 6 as being the clubs who filled the top 6 places in the SPL the previous season ,to use historical achievement is too objective , using the applied logic by posters on here Third Lanark a club who expired 50years ago would have to come into consideration , to sum up then , the historical achievements of clubs is too objective to be used in comprising the big 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieCon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Fucking hell, happyaccie isn't taking the news of our new manager very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, KillieCon said: Fucking hell, happyaccie isn't taking the news of our new manager very well. I am loving the appointment of the new killie manager , a perfect fit for killie fans after reading his interview, he comes across as a greeting moaning faced c**t, traits that all killie fans can relate to . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieCon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 That's me convinced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Cumdog opens this can of worms and I get it in the neck cheers dumbass , however how the f**k do you define a big 6 club , looks like the responses have been formed on the clubs history.The logic applied by posters on here really does baffle me , if I am correct in the assumption they are using the clubs history as the rule of thumb to comprise the biggest 6 clubs in Scotland not one of them have mentioned that the list is bollocks , the top 5 listed Celtic , Sevco, Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibs and ?, debating who should be regarded as the 6th biggest, if by applying the aforementioned history to gain entry to the big 6 then surely sevco who have won 3 lower league titles and a cup tournament which SPL clubs are not permitted to enter should not qualify them as a big 6 club. I personally would have them in my big six because I would class the big 6 as being the clubs who filled the top 6 places in the SPL the previous season ,to use historical achievement is too objective , using the applied logic by posters on here Third Lanark a club who expired 50years ago would have to come into consideration , to sum up then , the historical achievements of clubs is too objective to be used in comprising the big 6. It would actually be Queens Park.....Rangers 54 league, 33 Scottish, 27 League cups and 1 cup winners cup. Total 115Celtic 48 league, 37 scottish, 16 league cup and 1 European cup Total 102Aberdeen 4 League, 7 scottish, 6 league cup, 1 cup winners cup and 1 super cup. Total 19Hearts 4 League, 8 scottish, 4 league cup. Total 16Hibs 4 League, 3 scottish, 3 league cup. Total 10Queens Park 10 scottish cups. Total 10Killie 1 League, 3 Scottish, 1 league cup. Total 5.Dundee and Dundee United both have 5 trophies as well but they have less Scottish Cups than Killie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I am loving the appointment of the new killie manager , a perfect fit for killie fans after reading his interview, he comes across as a greeting moaning faced c**t, traits that all killie fans can relate to . You are a fucking loony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: It would actually be Queens Park..... Rangers 54 league, 33 Scottish, 27 League cups and 1 cup winners cup. Total 115 Celtic 48 league, 37 scottish, 16 league cup and 1 European cup Total 102 Aberdeen 4 League, 7 scottish, 6 league cup, 1 cup winners cup and 1 super cup. Total 19 Hearts 4 League, 8 scottish, 4 league cup. Total 16 Hibs 4 League, 3 scottish, 3 league cup. Total 10 Queens Park 10 scottish cups. Total 10 Killie 1 League, 3 Scottish, 1 league cup. Total 5. Dundee and Dundee United both have 5 trophies as well but they have less Scottish Cups than Killie. I never said they would qualify just they could be considered.As I said the choice of using historical achievements is so objective and being pedantic including Rangers on the list you have given is questionable as that club is no longer in existence , liquidation meant any achievements gained by the old football club should not be credited to the new football etentity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, happyaccie said: Cumdog opens this can of worms and I get it in the neck cheers dumbass , however how the f**k do you define a big 6 club , looks like the responses have been formed on the clubs history.The logic applied by posters on here really does baffle me , if I am correct in the assumption they are using the clubs history as the rule of thumb to comprise the biggest 6 clubs in Scotland not one of them have mentioned that the list is bollocks , the top 5 listed Celtic , Sevco, Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibs and ?, debating who should be regarded as the 6th biggest, if by applying the aforementioned history to gain entry to the big 6 then surely sevco who have won 3 lower league titles and a cup tournament which SPL clubs are not permitted to enter should not qualify them as a big 6 club. I personally would have them in my big six because I would class the big 6 as being the clubs who filled the top 6 places in the SPL the previous season ,to use historical achievement is too objective , using the applied logic by posters on here Third Lanark a club who expired 50years ago would have to come into consideration , to sum up then , the historical achievements of clubs is too objective to be used in comprising the big 6. 27 minutes ago, happyaccie said: I am loving the appointment of the new killie manager , a perfect fit for killie fans after reading his interview, he comes across as a greeting moaning faced c**t, traits that all killie fans can relate to . 11 minutes ago, happyaccie said: I never said they would qualify just they could be considered.As I said the choice of using historical achievements is so objective and being pedantic including Rangers on the list you have given is questionable as that club is no longer in existence , liquidation meant any achievements gained by the old football club should not be credited to the new football etentity 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I never said they would qualify just they could be considered.As I said the choice of using historical achievements is so objective and being pedantic including Rangers on the list you have given is questionable as that club is no longer in existence , liquidation meant any achievements gained by the old football club should not be credited to the new football etentity So how can you possibly include Third Lanark to justify the point of your previous post then?.... OWN GOAL MATEY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumdog35 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 13 hours ago, JamieH1869 said: Happyaccie scraping the bottom of the barrel here. His club in disarray while we appoint a premier league manager. Killie are the biggest provincial club in Scotland, one look at the history books will confirm that. LOL 13 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: I'd say Dundee, United and Motherwell are all bigger than Killie tbqh. Yup 2 hours ago, happyaccie said: Cumdog opens this can of worms Cumdog only opens tins eh beanz m8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: So how can you possibly include Third Lanark to justify the point of your previous post then?.... OWN GOAL MATEY I never, I said they could be considered .You have clearly included now known as sevco in the list you posted. eta - I also said in my original post I wouldn't employ historical achievements as a way to define the big 6 , I rather use placements of clubs in the previous season. Edited October 17, 2017 by happyaccie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Seems like an appropriate time for a reminder that Dundee haven't won a major trophy in 43 years, haven't finished in the top 4 in 55 years and haven't won the Scottish Cup in 107 years. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I never, I said they could be considered .You have clearly included now known as sevco in the list you posted. No, what I included was the honours won by Rangers, not Sevco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killienick Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: No, what I included was the honours won by Rangers, not Sevco. Which is my point a now defunct club , I am aware the 3rds are also defunct but if the list was being compiled purely on the historical achievements then the 3rds were worthy of consideration . I am now aware that after taking this viewpoint the 3rds wouldn't make the list, my whole point is employing the use of historical achievement is objective especially with regard to sevco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 12 hours ago, Dindeleux said: Yeh I think both Dundee clubs (Utd for sure) have solid claims to be bigger than us. Motherwell, St Johnstone and ourselves are much of a muchness. I think anyone trying to argue that Killie or Motherwell are bigger than the other would be struggling badly - the two clubs are as close to equivalents as it's possible to get. They have similar supports and financial size, face the same geographic challenges as regards bus-fulls of dregs heading off to Ibrox & Parkhead and have both been in the top league for ever - and have had relative success whilst there. They are the top town clubs I think it's fair to say but further than that, it's not worth trying to separate them. FWIW, I don't think there is one credible "6th biggest club" - there are a fairly obvious top 5 and then there are a bunch that fit into the mid-table bracket (The Dundee Clubs, Killie, Motherwell, etc) - but it's arguing over tiny differences to go further than that... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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