mizfit Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Today's moron in the paper I'm assuming Mr Tallan forgets a majority of no voters are "proud Scottish but" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Today's moron in the paper ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1444206192.294357.jpg I'm assuming Mr Tallan forgets a majority of no voters are "proud Scottish but" Im shocked Peter Andre is odds on favourite to win strictly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Ruth again on Good Morning Scotland once again banging on the nationalist drum. It did make me laugh as she blames tactical voting for the Scottish Tories losing votes at the WM elections She could well be right in Berwickshire to be fair - the tactical voting numpties were telling everyone to vote lib dem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Today's moron in the paper ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1444206192.294357.jpg I'm assuming Mr Tallan forgets a majority of no voters are "proud Scottish but" I wonder what would appear next to "My Team:" If Mr Tallan were on P&B.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I wonder what would appear next to "My Team:" If Mr Tallan were on P&B.... I would guess like a good many he would be ashamed and either go for a junior team or My Team: Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fide Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1444215864.719752.jpg Wonderfully biased bollocks from the Spectator and Telegraph columnist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1444215864.719752.jpg Yes, Westminster, with its Tory majority, needs the help of someone whose "great job" involves getting the Tories one seat - up zero seats since the previous election which didn't have her hand at the tiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13812719.Poll__SNP_retain_35__point_lead_over_Labour_ahead_of_Holyrood_2016_election/?ref=mr&lp=7 Posted 40 minutes ago. Headline results SNP 56% Labour 21% Tories 12% Lib Dems 6% TNS poll - 1037 people polled. Considering the 'hugely popular' election of the new UK labour leader and the seemingly endless negative press the SNP has been getting (justifiably if some of the allegations are true) that's remarkable. A 35 point lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The list is as follows; SNP: 52% (+1) LAB: 23% (-1) CON: 11% (-) LD: 6% (-) GRN: 5% (-1) UKIP: 3% (+1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Poor Magnus. They really worked their socks off at the Herald with the SNPbad as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13812719.Poll__SNP_retain_35__point_lead_over_Labour_ahead_of_Holyrood_2016_election/?ref=mr&lp=7 Posted 40 minutes ago. Headline results SNP 56% Labour 21% Tories 12% Lib Dems 6% TNS poll - 1037 people polled. Considering the 'hugely popular' election of the new UK labour leader and the seemingly endless negative press the SNP has been getting (justifiably if some of the allegations are true) that's remarkable. A 35 point lead. The list is as follows; SNP: 52% (+1) LAB: 23% (-1) CON: 11% (-) LD: 6% (-) GRN: 5% (-1) UKIP: 3% (+1) If that polling came through on the day, the Scottish parliament would look like the following: SNP: 76 Labour: 33 Tories: 11 Lib Dems: 6 Greens: 3 UKIP: 0 All of the Labour seats would be on the list. The Tories would hold two constituency seats and the LD's one. Strangely the LDs actually gain a seat, and the Greens do not see much dividend from their pro Indy stance. having said that, if the Greens go up by one point and the LDs down by one point, the LDs only lose one seat back to their 2011 levels and the Greens go from 2-5 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As brutal as it is to try and game the list system, it's fair to say on those constituency numbers, you don't get much bang for your buck by going SNP-SNP. If 10% of the SNP list vote switched to the Greens (or even RISE, should that become any kind of a force), they could gain something like 15 seats, and the SNP would only lose 5 seats, further squeezing Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Last month just for the hell of it, I went through every regions constituencies and lists and tried to work out who would win what. Nothing scientific and you'll probably end up disagreeing with a lot of it, but I just went off of previous majorities/personal thoughts. Anyhoo, here are the 8 regions and the final seat numbers that I reached. Would be interested to hear some thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Are the conservatives really favourites to win Ayr? Considering the general election results for the SNP in Ayr and Ayrshire general, I'm struggling to see past them on a FPTP election there? Looks quite fair to me though. The Greens look a little bit overpowered, possibly labour too all things considered. I think the Tories may take 20-21 at this moment in time. If they can get the 'party of the union' argument off the ground, they'll possibly do even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 SNP 16-34: 68% Labour in Scotland 16-34: 12% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As brutal as it is to try and game the list system, it's fair to say on those constituency numbers, you don't get much bang for your buck by going SNP-SNP. If 10% of the SNP list vote switched to the Greens (or even RISE, should that become any kind of a force), they could gain something like 15 seats, and the SNP would only lose 5 seats, further squeezing Labour. That's precisely why I'll be going SNP-Green, or possibly Green-Green in May. RISE seem well intentioned, but I'm not particularly confident they'll have much substance beyond being pro independence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 SNP 16-34: 68% Labour in Scotland 16-34: 12% I genuinely think the Tories have a higher voter base in young people in Scotland. Those figures back it up as well, but I'm 28 and I know far more Tories than I do labourites around my age and younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 That's precisely why I'll be going SNP-Green, or possibly Green-Green in May. RISE seem well intentioned, but I'm not particularly confident they'll have much substance beyond being pro independence Are you likely to have a Green constituency candidate? I've only heard of Patrick Harvey standing in the Glasgow Kelvin seat (and top of the green list, obviously as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Are the conservatives really favourites to win Ayr? Considering the general election results for the SNP in Ayr and Ayrshire general, I'm struggling to see past them on a FPTP election there? Looks quite fair to me though. The Greens look a little bit overpowered, possibly labour too all things considered. I think the Tories may take 20-21 at this moment in time. If they can get the 'party of the union' argument off the ground, they'll possibly do even better. I was actually worried that I was already too bias by putting us as gaining 3 seats. Ayr was one of the ones I struggled with to be honest, but I think I just put it down as a Tory hold since it's been the same MSP since 2000 and our one seat at the General Election we held on to quite successfully. Also I believe the boundaries favour Tories slightly more in the Scottish Parliament seat as opposed to the UK one? That might not be true though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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