Loki Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I doubt Murray will give a shit. Without saying he's chucked it, he clearly hasn't tried at all. Pretty much I agree with this. I think the last two matches he tried to expend as little energy as possible. Against Nadal he didn't really try and the second set he appeared to chuck away before actually trying again. I think he will be happy knowing that he is injury free and the #2 spot is still in his hands, even if Federer wins the title. Won't make that much difference really, whether he is 2 and Federer 3 or vice versa they will still be in the same half of the draw and in the opposite half from Djokovic. Would make a difference to his quarter final opponent but he would back himself against just about everyone outside the rest of the top 4 anyway. That isn't true. Seeds three and four get allocated in to different halves by luck of the draw. There is a 50/50 chance of drawing either. If he did purposely not bother his arse that is really poor. It's the fifth biggest tournament of the year which he had a chance in. Also puts at risk his no 2 seeding for Australia which could be a disaster. I would say that this year he isn't bothered about the ATP Tour finals. He is more concerned about the Davis Cup. If he wins one match and GB lift the title hes' #2. If he wins both his matches he will be #2 even if GB don't win the trophy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) That isn't true. Seeds three and four get allocated in to different halves by luck of the draw. There is a 50/50 chance of drawing either. 50/50 chance of 2 drawing 3 has happened 5 years in a row with seed 1 and seed 4 always in top half according to Wiki. That`s not to say it`s not as you say though. Edit to add you must be correct as the same split doesn`t occur in women`s draw over the same period. Must just be chance as you said. Edited November 21, 2015 by Distant Doonhamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 50/50 chance of 2 drawing 3 has happened 5 years in a row with seed 1 and seed 4 always in top half according to Wiki. That`s not to say it`s not as you say though. Edit to add you must be correct as the same split doesn`t occur in women`s draw over the same period. Must just be chance as you said. Yeah just a coincidence. All four slams are drawn using the same method. Although for Murray's draw he will be seeded to meet a former champion in either case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 My mistake, I'd assumed it was deliberate that 2 played 3 as it seemed to be happening every year! Hopefully he can still be second seed then, 2 singles wins next week are a must for Murray anyway just from the Davis Cup point of view, does his ranking no harm too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Djokovic took the first set 6-3, and wins the first game of the second set too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Djokovic wins 6-3, 6-4. Good result for Murray. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Djokovic again beats Federer in a high profile final. That makes Djokovic's year the best on record since 1969 when Rod Laver completed his second calendar Grand Slam. Andy Murray completes his best year consistency wise and takes the year end number two for the first time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-coo-shed Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Good! Just pleased Murray got number two in the end. Had a great, consistent year. Hopefully ends it with a David Cup win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-coo-shed Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Apologies for the source, but John Lloyd once again proves how much of a twat he really is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3328742/Andy-Murray-doesn-t-British-tennis-blasts-David-Lloyd.html Edited November 23, 2015 by The-coo-shed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Apologies for the source, but John Lloyd once again proves how much of a twat he really is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3328742/Andy-Murray-doesn-t-British-tennis-blasts-David-Lloyd.html Except it's his brother (also a bit of a knob btw), who I think actually has a point here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm a bit of a token tennis fan, but surprised Murray has finished the year as No.2. Has he won a number of smaller tournaments that have just gone under the radar for fair weather fans like me? Or does the Davis cup have a bearing on it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm a bit of a token tennis fan, but surprised Murray has finished the year as No.2. Has he won a number of smaller tournaments that have just gone under the radar for fair weather fans like me? Or does the Davis cup have a bearing on it? He won four titles this year. 2 Masters (Madrid and Montreal) one 500 event (Queens) and one 250 (Hamburg). It's his consistency this year that made him finish above Federer. His consistency at the Masters level was 2 wins, 2 further finals, 3 semi finals and one exit before the QF (a withdrawal against Goffin). Federer had won one Masters and made two finals. If he wins the Davis Cup and GB win the title he would have gathered 625 ranking points. If he has any ambitions of being number one, he has to beat Djokovic, Federer and Nadal more often that he has this year. His consistency in seeing off people ranked lower than him has been superb though barring the Anderson match at the US Open. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Andy Murray 'Scottish when he loses' myth dismissed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-34909845 Found that article quite interesting. Surprised by it to be honest... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Andy Murray 'Scottish when he loses' myth dismissed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-34909845 Found that article quite interesting. Surprised by it to be honest... Everyone with a brain always knew it was a myth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Everyone with a brain always knew it was a myth. I'd always thought it was just a joke tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Andy Murray 'Scottish when he loses' myth dismissed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-34909845 Found that article quite interesting. Surprised by it to be honest... I wasn't surprised to see that at all. The BBC and British press generally call him British and Scottish in equal measures. After his Wimbledon triumph they called him the man from Dunblane quite often too. The people I know that have said this, generally tend to be those that don't follow tennis at all. I have even seen people seething that he is not being called Scottish when he was winning olympic gold for Great Britain. Supposedly the arena that they will play in at the weekend has a current temperature of about 3 degrees. They have all been practising on the clay and Andy Murray has said that it is going to plan. Think the score will be 3-1 for GB. Wouldn't surprise me to see Andy Murray retire from Davis Cup if we were to win. The Olympics next season will see players earn no money and no ranking points. Coming in between the Canadian Masters and the Cincinatti Masters, we might see a host of top 50 players skip it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 No real surprise to see Kyle Edmund named as GB's second singles player. The ties will be as follows: Goffin Vs Edmund Bemelemans Vs Murray Darcis/Coppejans Vs Murray/Murray Goffin Vs Murray Bemelemans Vs Edmund. All ties are subject to change up until one hour before the match starts. If Andy Murray wins his three ties, he will have had the second best year in Davis Cup history. Only John McEnroe can beat his 11 points. John McEnroe went perfect 8-0 and 4-0 in doubles in 1982 beating France, Sweden, Australia and India. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Similar to the semis in that I think Smith's approach is see how Edmund does on the Friday when it's a bit of a shot to nothing. If he freezes we've got a guy with decent Davis Cup experience and wins to step in. No surprise Inglot is the odd man out, but Smith clearly keen to cultivate a bit of the team atmosphere that other countries have done better than us to this point. The French had a ridiculous number of players past and present at the tie in London. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booitsme7 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Good to see that Leon Smith went with Kyle Edmund but have read that James Ward will play the reverse singles should the tie go to a fifth and final rubber. Really looking forward to this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Whitewash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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