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Murray won 6-3, 4-6, 6-0.

Annoyingly, even though it was a 500-pointer, he only picked up 100 points, as this week last year was when the Marseille Open was played, in which Murray was the champion, so he loses all the points he got for that this week.

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Annoyingly, even though it was a 500-pointer, he only picked up 100 points, as this week last year was when the Marseille Open was played, in which Murray was the champion, so he loses all the points he got for that this week.

How close is Murray to Djokovic now?

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Annoyingly, even though it was a 500-pointer, he only picked up 100 points, as this week last year was when the Marseille Open was played, in which Murray was the champion, so he loses all the points he got for that this week.
How close is Murray to Djokovic now?

He is 1,550 points behind. He's not likely to catch him anytime soon in reality. It'll probably need to wait to Wimbledon or so.

The next tournament for both players is in Dubai where Djokovic is defending 270 points for a semi final appearance and Murray 150 points for a quarter final one. So he'll get 120 points back in effect before the playing results. Even if he won and Djokovic went out in the first round though he'd only get back around 600 points.

After that we move onto the clay court season with Masters events in Rome and Monte Carlo. Murray won 160 points between them last year whilst Djokovic got 1,450 points so the gap is bridgeable over those two events but there's no reason really to expect Murray to outperform Djokovic on clay. The Serb is better on it. I expect the gap to narrow but Djokovic is still likely to be at least a semi finalist in both events, Murray isn't. Those are followed by Hamburg and then the French Open at Roland Garros where Murray defends 300 points between them and Djokovic defends 1,350.

Certainly the scope is there for Murray to narrow the gap over the clay season. He ought to do better than he did last season and Djokovic might be doing well to match what he did (though with Federer never the strongest on clay and Nadal struggling with his fitnes he might even do better than he did before). Basically over the next five big events Djokovic is defending 3,070 points and Murray only 610 points. That 2,460 point differential certainly offers scope to bridge the 1,550 point gap but it would need Murray to be regularly reaching last fours on clay. Can he do that? If not he'll still be behind heading into the grass court season.

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He is 1,550 points behind. He's not likely to catch him anytime soon in reality. It'll probably need to wait to Wimbledon or so.

The next tournament for both players is in Dubai where Djokovic is defending 270 points for a semi final appearance and Murray 150 points for a quarter final one. So he'll get 120 points back in effect before the playing results. Even if he won and Djokovic went out in the first round though he'd only get back around 600 points.

After that we move onto the clay court season with Masters events in Rome and Monte Carlo. Murray won 160 points between them last year whilst Djokovic got 1,450 points so the gap is bridgeable over those two events but there's no reason really to expect Murray to outperform Djokovic on clay. The Serb is better on it. I expect the gap to narrow but Djokovic is still likely to be at least a semi finalist in both events, Murray isn't. Those are followed by Hamburg and then the French Open at Roland Garros where Murray defends 300 points between them and Djokovic defends 1,350.

Certainly the scope is there for Murray to narrow the gap over the clay season. He ought to do better than he did last season and Djokovic might be doing well to match what he did (though with Federer never the strongest on clay and Nadal struggling with his fitnes he might even do better than he did before). Basically over the next five big events Djokovic is defending 3,070 points and Murray only 610 points. That 2,460 point differential certainly offers scope to bridge the 1,550 point gap but it would need Murray to be regularly reaching last fours on clay. Can he do that? If not he'll still be behind heading into the grass court season.

Comprehensive answer. Cheers. :D

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After that we move onto the clay court season with Masters events in Rome and Monte Carlo.

No we don't. The first two masters series events are in Indian Wells and Miami. It's only after that the players then return to Europe for the clay court season.

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No we don't. The first two masters series events are in Indian Wells and Miami. It's only after that the players then return to Europe for the clay court season.

You are absolutely right. Schoolboy error. I looked at that earlier today as well and then, in giving the fuller answer, completely missed that part out despite going back to the atp site for the actual points totals :ph34r:

What an idiot!

That does make it a little likelier then that Murray can make the ground up before Wimbledon. Djokovic will almost certainly outperform Murray on clay but maybe not by enough to maintain his advantage. Much will depend on what draws Murray gets in the big clay events. If he gets a low seeded clay court specialist he'll lose and make up nothing. If he can battle his way at least to last eight and maybe even last four of some of them despite not especially liking the surface he can catch Djokovic.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Anyone watching the tennis? Can't seem to get the scores anywhere.

I think we might actually win this tie. Ukraine's numpty player is pish.

Will come down to the doubles.

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Maybe I'm reading the score wrong, but considering you posted 18 minutes ago, we're 2 sets to love down at 5 all.

I hadnt seen the score. I'm at work.

My comment was based on what I would have said before a ball was hit :lol:

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