Poet of the Macabre Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I've been reading about this £150,000 that DF Concerts received from the Scottish Government and after hearing what Fiona Hyslop said today, I have to admit this is looking fairly dodgy. T in the Park is not a charity and they have a major sponsor. If they can't afford to run it without Government support then they shouldn't run it at all. I understand there would be a hit to the economy but I really don't think the Government should be bankrolling a music festival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I've been reading about this £150,000 that DF Concerts received from the Scottish Government and after hearing what Fiona Hyslop said today, I have to admit this is looking fairly dodgy. T in the Park is not a charity and they have a major sponsor. If they can't afford to run it without Government support then they shouldn't run it at all. I understand there would be a hit to the economy but I really don't think the Government should be bankrolling a music festival. The government spent £150k on the festival. How much did it bring back in to the exchequer in VAT on the tickets, on the tat that was sold, on the services used by attendees, and the bevvy sold over the weekend? It seems to me to be a good investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I've been reading about this £150,000 that DF Concerts received from the Scottish Government and after hearing what Fiona Hyslop said today, I have to admit this is looking fairly dodgy. T in the Park is not a charity and they have a major sponsor. If they can't afford to run it without Government support then they shouldn't run it at all. I understand there would be a hit to the economy but I really don't think the Government should be bankrolling a music festival. Govts local and national support this type of event all the time. From world cups to community gala days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 So I'm not the only one that has no problem with Government paying into things like this? Having a major sponsor shouldn't really matter, as almost every event now has sponsors. Governments pay into hosting World Cups, Athletic Championships, Olympics, Golf Tournaments etc. etc. etc. Why would Music or Film or any other creative arts Festivals be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 So I'm not the only one that has no problem with Government paying into things like this? Having a major sponsor shouldn't really matter, as almost every event now has sponsors. Governments pay into hosting World Cups, Athletic Championships, Olympics, Golf Tournaments etc. etc. etc. Why would Music or Film or any other creative arts Festivals be any different? Providing there is some tangible return for the tax payer, and I don't just mean "Raised awareness of the plight suffered by blind lesbian midget sky divers" type causes, then this is the sort of thing the government should be doing, especially as the money comes back to them via the tax take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parahandy1 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It depends on whether or not DF Concerts are a commercial organisation whos involvement in the event is intended to derive a profit for them and their shareholders. If they are established a not for profit, or as a charity then the £150k is presumably not going into their pocket but into the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 So I'm not the only one that has no problem with Government paying into things like this? Having a major sponsor shouldn't really matter, as almost every event now has sponsors. Governments pay into hosting World Cups, Athletic Championships, Olympics, Golf Tournaments etc. etc. etc. Why would Music or Film or any other creative arts Festivals be any different? Am sure many charities in scotland could have used the £150,000 far better to help people in need rather than this type of event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 From what I can gather DF were ready to look elsewhere. But I do not think they should hold a gun the the Government's head. At the the end of the day this is all politics. Tories and Labour see an ex SNP aid involved and all he'll breaks lose. Kept Radio Scotland going all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Am sure many charities in scotland could have used the £150,000 far better to help people in need rather than this type of event. Don't you ever get fed up of cramming your giant feet in your massive mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 From what I can gather DF were ready to look elsewhere. But I do not think they should hold a gun to the Government's head. At the the end of the day this is all politics. Tories and Labour see an ex SNP aid involved and all he'll breaks lose. Kept Radio Scotland going all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 DF definitely threatened to at the very least pull the plug on the festival. Which seems like a bit of fear mongering. Although given the disdain they seem to have for the fans these days, I suppose it'd be no surprise that they'd show this level of disdain towards everyone else too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 How much did Glasgow council give the OO for Orangefest in George Sq the other week again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It depends on whether or not DF Concerts are a commercial organisation whos involvement in the event is intended to derive a profit for them and their shareholders. If they are established a not for profit, or as a charity then the £150k is presumably not going into their pocket but into the event.Before I go on this is an extreme example. Are you saying you would have until this year been happy to pay money to the NFL but not TitP. All because one had a charity status? If, and I don't believe it for a second there was any chance TitP was not going to go ahead or move out of Scotland then, the SG was well within the right to intervene - and that's coming from someone who has never been and never will go. As for kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The taxpayer probably spends plenty on t in the park indirectly anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Don't you ever get fed up of cramming your giant feet in your massive mouth? Maybe you can explain what is wrong with my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Before I go on this is an extreme example. Are you saying you would have until this year been happy to pay money to the NFL but not TitP. All because one had a charity status? If, and I don't believe it for a second there was any chance TitP was not going to go ahead or move out of Scotland then, the SG was well within the right to intervene - and that's coming from someone who has never been and never will go. As for kev Maybe you can explain whats laughable about my post, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Cause you don't quantify it. Like your China episode. What do you think Charities would have done with the money spent on Wembley, Olympic Stadium, City of Manchester Stadium, Commonwealth Games, The Olympics, England's failed FIFA World Cup bid, the 2015 Rugby World Cup funds, Scotland's failed European Championship bid. Where were your complaints then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 DF certainly made a rip roaring c**t of it by leaving Balado and serving up a truly horrible experience from a large portion of attendees and refused to take any blame for it. Get them to f**k and get someone else to organise the festival back where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 DF certainly made a rip roaring c**t of it by leaving Balado and serving up a truly horrible experience from a large portion of attendees and refused to take any blame for it. Get them to f**k and get someone else to organise the festival back where it belongs. It wasn't their choice to leave Balado in fairness. Get in Stirling on the fields below the castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It wasn't their choice to leave Balado in fairness. Get in Stirling on the fields below the castle. Was the down to Geoff Ellis? Im not sure who's who but i would still want it in Balado. Would Stirling not be a bad patch for flooding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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