paisleysaints Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I think the first two were pretty slow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Watched this in a few days was certainly interesting. Think it shows you are knackered if the cops think you are guilty in these type of places in the US. From what was showing in the documentary certainly felt there was more than enough for reasonable doubt but the evidence they missed out or glossed over is really damning for Avery. The one thing I'm surprised they didn't make more out of is Colburn phoning in a check on Teresa's car how could he do that two days before it was found? He looked like he shat his pants when the defence brought it up but they didn't make much of it, in the documentary at least. Avery was scum but I did have a lot of sympathy for the nephew. How could they find him guilty on that confession? They basically told him what to say. His first lawyer was a piece of shit, grinning away when his client got fucked over by the court. Edited January 17, 2016 by Jack Burton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Reckon it was members of his family who wanted rid of him, with the knowledge the police would instantly jump on him. The nephew was likely the easiest target for them to help push the guilty verdict along, as hes too dumb to realise whats hes doing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 As far as Lenk and Colburn are concerned, whether Avery is actually guilty or not is irrelevant. It is an utterly undeniable fact that they planted evidence and therefore they should have lost their jobs and done jail time themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Just over 2 episodes in and have to say the full thing so far is heart breaking. How the report in the first case could come back saying there was nothing badly a miss is absolutely staggering. They let a guy go about raping and abusing women for 10 years and never batted an eyelid. Just so Avery would get locked up. As soon as I saw officer Colburn during the second trial I knew it had to be games a bogey. The keys to the car were not there during thr first search but found in a later search. Aye cause thats what you do when your a suspect in a murder case you throw evidence on the bedroom floor when the police are sniffing around. Total set up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I've got two to go the inconsistent information given from both Lenk and Colburn is frightening. Also the whole number plate thing from Colburn. Need to get this finished tonight its just filling me with rage anytime i see those two and that sex pest Kratz also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) " What else happened Brendan. What else happened to her head " You can see the boy trying to think what answer it is they want from him. Actually felt uneasy watching that. Then he asked if he would be back to school in time to hand in a project. Clearly not realising the situation. Then once told he would be arrested he asked if it was for one day. Thats gutting. Edited January 18, 2016 by diamond_for_life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJM77 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 " What else happened Brendan. What else happened to her head " You can see the boy trying to think what answer it is they want from him. Actually felt uneasy watching that. Then he asked if he would be back to school in time to hand in a project. Clearly not realising the situation. Then once told he would be arrested he asked if it was for one day. Thats gutting. The thing that got me the most was when he was on the phone to his Mum and he asked if she could record WrestleMania for him, that was fucking gutting, absolutely no way he was involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed118 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Has anypne watched west of memphis? Same idea as Making a murderer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Has anypne watched west of memphis? Same idea as Making a murderer? Kinda. Well worth a watch as it sets up the prosecution case very well in the opening 15 mins or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 What are we making of this Jodi ones claims now?? He did it etc 10 years on and a change of heart living in fear etc. I'm sure she fled because of the cops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 What are we making of this Jodi ones claims now?? He did it etc 10 years on and a change of heart living in fear etc. I'm sure she fled because of the cops. She said she was scared but she phoned him whilst in jail, broke the no contact order and told him about marriage and moving away whilst he was in jail. All seems very suspect but the women that interviewed her Nancy Grace seems a bit of a c**t too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I didnt see the actual interview more reading about it. The he wanted to tie me up etc roll on 2015 he could've been Mr grey haha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Watched this over the last week or two. The whole thing is an absolute scandal. The actions of most (all?) of the Manitowoc authorities are pretty much beyond contempt. It's impossible to imagine a more disgusting group of individuals. I expected Avery to be put away but how Brendan is still in jail beggars belief. It is sickening that he has been unable to successfully appeal as yet. Hopefully the publicity from the series will lead to some sort of development. Edited January 19, 2016 by Martin Nelson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I watched the 10 episodes from start to finish on Sunday. Compelling viewing and a great way to realise that although you may be nursing the mother of all hangovers, your life could be far worse. Despite watching it and having read several differing theories from armchair detectives on here and elsewhere, I still wouldn't be able to give an opinion on whether it was Avery or not. What is weird though is that in Avery's trial Kratz holds up one finger and emphasises that there is only one man responsible for her murder yet they go on to convict Dassey including the charges that they dropped for Avery of sexual assault and mutilation of a corpse. I also don't understand why Avery didn't testify and let the jury decide whether he was innocent under cross-examination. Surely if you've got nothing to hide then giving you're watertight version of events might be a good idea if you want to convince the jury of your innocence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I also don't understand why Avery didn't testify and let the jury decide whether he was innocent under cross-examination. Surely if you've got nothing to hide then giving you're watertight version of events might be a good idea if you want to convince the jury of your innocence? He could easily have incriminated himself (even if he's innocent) on the stand, or had his words twisted by the prosecution. Having said that, Brendan took the stand and his low IQ helped him if anything. Not sure if it was this thread posted it to, but always worth a repost: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 That's me finished the 10 part. Kratz getting rumbled was nice to see but again police or however hide it for a year. And that lawyer len what a fucking rat that is. Can't help but feel for Brendan and the ex coming out shouting her mouth is this for $$$$ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Manitowocs Finest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I still think that Avery is the prime suspect and it seems most likely that he did it, but the evidence and process of the trial is a bit lacking and I'm not sure there was enough evidence to convict him. Obviously this is just what was shown on the program. Difficult to say really. Brendan was all over the place and never had a fair trial, he was always going to go down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If they stabbed her and slit her throat how comes there was no blood in the trailer? And how was Brendan was found guilty of chopping her body up but Avery wasn't? Batshit crazy. Avery could well have done it but not in the way it's been made out, pretty laughable that the thick Yanks on the jury bought that story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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