Poet of the Macabre Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 St Johnstone and Ross County both currently have 39 points. They both have scored 44 goals and conceded 46. Ross County are ahead of the Saintees though, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 St Johnstone and Ross County both currently have 39 points. They both have scored 44 goals and conceded 46. Ross County are ahead of the Saintees though, why? Head to heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayhole Blue Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 The table will show them in alphabetical order if their records are identical - however that wouldn't be used to separate them if something was at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 If there's a tie at the end of the season, then it goes down to head-to-head, but that doesn't apply right now, since they've only met twice (with one Saints win and one draw). Right now, they are both joint fourth. However, if you have a league table then you still have to put one of them above the other, or else the table will look a bit weird and confusing. Also, most computer systems that generate tables can't properly deal with teams being dead level. I'd guess that a few places have County above St Johnstone on alphabetical order, or because County were above St Johnstone before Saints' last win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 SPL used a 1-legged playoff. SFL used 2-legs. Does SPFL's head-to-head system cover Premiership split (2H/1A), or post-split if met 3H/1A? Also it is pointage or aggregate score? e.g. United 1-0 Athletic Athletic 4-0 United United 2-1 Athletic Athletic 0-0 United - United leads 7pts to 4pts - Athletic leads 5 goals to 3 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 It goes by points for head-to-head games. SPFL rule C35: The higher placed Club shall be the Club, having the greater number of points in League Matches between the relevant Clubs in the Season in question...in the event of the number of such points being equal the higher placed Club shall be the Club with the larger or largest positive goal difference (or the lower or lowest negative goal difference where appropriate) in League Matches between the relevant Clubs in the Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Does seem harsh that head-to-head is used after 33 games if required to decide who makes what side of the split. You'd think that favours the side playing at home twice. Still, it's highly improbable, and makes it less likely to need a hastily arranged neutral venue with police & stewarding to be sorted. Can't think of a better alternative off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The head-to-head tiebreaker was only introduced when the SPFL was formed in 2013. Prior to that, the rules required a play-off for any meaningful position if teams were tied on points, goal difference and goals scored. There were a few situations where this was a realistic possibility; off the top of my head, the first "Helicopter Sunday", and the 2004/05 SPL split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 There was also the case of Clyde and Morton who went into the last day of an SFL First Division season a few years ago. Had a certain combination of (not entirely unlikely) results occurred, they were going to have needed to play-off to decide who went into the relegation play-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 It was also possible at the end of last season going into the final day in League One. Had we beaten Peterhead 1-0 on the final day and Forfar beaten Ayr 5-1, we'd have finished on identical points and goal difference, with a head to head on two wins apiece and an aggregate score of 6-6 in the head-to-heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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