YassinMoutaouakil Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 It seems to be unclear whether this will be a 'capped' entry, of 1 CL & 1 EL place or if they'll be able to float up the coefficient table and get more slots. Gibraltar are now above Andorra and San Marino, who as the bottom 2 countries in the coefficient get 2 EL slots instead of 3, but nevertheless Gibraltar are still being 'capped' at only 1 EL slot by UEFA. That seems mental to me, what's UEFA's reasons/justification? It's not as if Kosovan or Gibraltarian teams would be dominating Europe either way, so they're hardly a threat to the established superclubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 No idea if theres any previous examples for it, but most folk seem to think they'll be given the choice to swap if they want After the collapse of the USSR, Russia was considered the successor state and quite a number of players who were not actually eligible to play for Russia, being nationals of break away states like Ukraine, Georgia etc, were allowed to chose to play as Russians (Andrei Kanchelskis being one of the better known ones). Others, of course, chose to play for the 'new' nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nightfly Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I think their friendly match today was cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 That seems mental to me, what's UEFA's reasons/justification? It's not as if Kosovan or Gibraltarian teams would be dominating Europe either way, so they're hardly a threat to the established superclubs. I don't know why. Before EL began, Andorra and San Marino were 'capped' at 0 CL and 1 EL slots - but since EL started it changed to the bottom pair in coefficient table getting 2 EL slots instead of 3 as incentive to improve. Hopefully it's just a sort of "probation" new members have to serve. In just 2 seasons Gibraltar clubs have managed 2 draws & 1 win in CL (including reaching QR2 this season), and as I say are now above Andorra and San Marino. Kosovo seem to have quite a well-established football system. Twelve-team Superleague playing 33 games above a sixteen-team second tier playing 30 games. These 28 clubs combine in the Kosovar Cup, where uniquely everyone starts in R1 and correspondingly (28 > 14 > 7) someone gets a bye at QFs stage ... SFs are over 2 legs. Interestingly the city of Mitrovica, divided along ethnic lines, has 2 clubs in the Kosovo Superleague and 1 club in the Serbian 4th tier. Indeed there is a dedicated "Kosovo Division" at tier 5 of the Serb system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 They're playing the Faroes tonight, this their first game? Kosovo 8/11 in the betting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Won 2-0 Played an hour with ten men, too. They'll be at the World Cup before Scotland are again, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 They're playing the Faroes tonight, this their first game? Kosovo 8/11 in the betting. Recorded mixed results since being allowed to play full friendlies in 2014. Kosovo 0-0 Haiti Kosovo 1-6 Turkey Kosovo 1-3 Senegal (in Switzerland) Kosovo 1-0 Oman Kosovo 2-0 Equatorial Guinea Kosovo 2-2 Albania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 It was their first recognised game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchBorderer Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Hats off to Kosovo for their first win since being elected into UEFA, but don't think you should ever celebrate too much when your opponent was the Faroese national team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 If nothing else it serves as a good indicator of where their level will be. They won't be absoluted horsed like Gibraltar have been anyway. They'll float about with the Georgias and Moldovas of this world for a bit but I can see them improving to be competing for play-off positions eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I don't know how it works with UEFA coefficients and what not for new countries, but if they end-up in the bottom tier of the UEFA Nations League they could have a shot at Euro 2020 - each division has 1 finals slot. By last year's UEFA National Team coefficients the bottom division would be: Belarus, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Latvia, Cyprus, Moldova, Macedonia, Kazakhstan, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Faroe Islands, Malta, Andorra, San Marino, Gibraltar, Kosovo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 It wouldn't be any different, IMO, from players who had already played for Yugoslavia being allowed to play for Croatia/Slovenia etc while there was still a team called Yugoslavia. I think that Yugoslavia though was what is now known as Serbia. Although the state broke up and along came Slovenia, Croatia etc, Yugoslavia continued to play before becoming known as Serbia, at least in footballing terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I know but the Croats, Macedonians, etc who had played for the old Yugoslavia were allowed to play for Croatia, Macedonia is what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I know but the Croats, Macedonians, etc who had played for the old Yugoslavia were allowed to play for Croatia, Macedonia is what I meant. Absolutely aye. Given the ethnic cleansing by the Serbs I would have doubted the sanity of any of the Croats/Bosnians etc if they had chosen to still play for Yugoslavia. I guess it's a wee bit different to the Albania/Switzerland/Kosovo situation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I think that Yugoslavia though was what is now known as Serbia. Although the state broke up and along came Slovenia, Croatia etc, Yugoslavia continued to play before becoming known as Serbia, at least in footballing terms. Prior to the 1990s Yugoslavia was a federation of six republics who eventually declared their independence Slovenia - independent 1991 Croatia - indepdndent 1991 Bosnia & Herzogovina - independent 1992 Macedonia - indepedent 1993 During this period Serbia and Montenegro continued to be referred to as Yugoslavia until 2003 when, a few years following the overthrow of the Milosevic regime in Belgrade, the country was reconstituted as Serbia and Montenegro. This ended in 2006 when Montenegro voted for independence in a referendum. Kosova wasn't a constituent republic of Yugoslavia but was an autonomous province of the Serbian republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Prior to the 1990s Yugoslavia was a federation of six republics who eventually declared their independence Slovenia - independent 1991 Croatia - indepdndent 1991 Bosnia & Herzogovina - independent 1992 Macedonia - indepedent 1993 During this period Serbia and Montenegro continued to be referred to as Yugoslavia until 2003 when, a few years following the overthrow of the Milosevic regime in Belgrade, the country was reconstituted as Serbia and Montenegro. This ended in 2006 when Montenegro voted for independence in a referendum. Kosova wasn't a constituent republic of Yugoslavia but was an autonomous province of the Serbian republic. Aye that's kinda what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Aye that's kinda what I said. Yeah I just like making lists of countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Yeah I just like making lists of countries. Who doesn't. To be fair it's actually quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Prior to the 1990s Yugoslavia was a federation of six republics who eventually declared their independence Slovenia - independent 1991 Croatia - indepdndent 1991 Bosnia & Herzogovina - independent 1992 Macedonia - indepedent 1993 During this period Serbia and Montenegro continued to be referred to as Yugoslavia until 2003 when, a few years following the overthrow of the Milosevic regime in Belgrade, the country was reconstituted as Serbia and Montenegro. This ended in 2006 when Montenegro voted for independence in a referendum. Kosova wasn't a constituent republic of Yugoslavia but was an autonomous province of the Serbian republic. As was - and indeed still is - Vojvodina. On the subject of lists: following the admission of Gibraltar and Kosovo how many parts of Europe are there who can't play international football? It can't be very many now. Some territories, as the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey and the various Scandanavian islands, play for their mother countries. Monaco and the Vatican City are two obvious examples. Northern Cyprus. Is that it? Incidentally the Kosovan teams failed to obtain UEFA licenses in time, so they'll not feature in CL or EL next season and no adjustments to slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 As was - and indeed still is - Vojvodina. On the subject of lists: following the admission of Gibraltar and Kosovo how many parts of Europe are there who can't play international football? It can't be very many now. Some territories, as the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey and the various Scandanavian islands, play for their mother countries. Monaco and the Vatican City are two obvious examples. Northern Cyprus. Is that it? Incidentally the Kosovan teams failed to obtain UEFA licenses in time, so they'll not feature in CL or EL next season and no adjustments to slots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_in_Europe Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Akrotiri and Dhelkelia - British military bases in Cyprus Guernsey Isle of Man Jersey Aaland Isles - Special Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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