Wilky1878 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Can the greens now be classed as a major party in scotland? Lib dems who were classed as more major than the greens in the lead up to the holyrood elections now have less seats so the only logical explanation should be that they are now a major party and lib dems a minor here. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The Greens did lack the prerequisite minimum number of seats to be treated as a Parliamentary "group" for the purposes of the Committees and Bureau. This time both they and the Lib Dems meet the threshold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 We'll see when Ross Greer is the kingmaker for indyref2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Not Major, but certainly an up & coming force. As far as influence in this parliament, I think it will be limited (unfortunately IMO). Where the SNP vary greatly from the Green Party on single issues (fracking & airport tax duty for instance). I believe the abstainers (Lab) or the power hungry, swing in the wind(Libs) will carry SNP policy through. I see this as a bad thing, as I'd rather the SNP were kept in check by a more left thinking & Indy friendly party- Greens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 We'll see when Ross Greer is the kingmaker for indyref2 The ginger hero that Scotland needs and deserves 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The ginger hero that Scotland needs and deserves His face on posters like Che Guevara or Stalin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonMan Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Certainly can be seen as being on the level of the Lib Dems now, which is quite respectable. They'll play an important role in the next 5 years in holding the SNP to account at times, and also probably being the party to work alongside them most closely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 No, complete irrelevance whom will play no role at all in holding anyone to anything, the only possible influence they could have is to block a referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) No, complete irrelevance whom will play no role at all in holding anyone to anything, the only possible influence they could have is to block a referendum. Harvie has now stated he wouldn't block a second referendum if the SNP proposed one. And we know they only will when it's winnable. Edited May 7, 2016 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'll go as far as to say the Greens will have more influence than the Tories in the Scottish parliament 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Harvie has now stated he wouldn't block a second referendum if the SNP proposed one. And we know they only will when it's winnable. when did he say that cause he said last month he would 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'll go as far as to say the Greens will have more influence than the Tories in the Scottish parliament Probably, but I'd say less than the Lib Dems (do we still class them as a major party?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 A major party is not one with less than 5% of seats all on the list. Couldn't be less major if they tried and will affect diddly squat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomhill Ultra Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Is standing as a (virtually) list only Party a realistic long term option if they are truly looking to breakthrough to regularly get more than a handful of seats? Not suggesting they can regularly win constituency seats in the short term but the extra coverage and kudos it brings is important perhaps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Is standing as a (virtually) list only Party a realistic long term option if they are truly looking to breakthrough to regularly get more than a handful of seats? Not suggesting they can regularly win constituency seats in the short term but the extra coverage and kudos it brings is important perhaps. for a protest party in this system absolutely. To progress to something more absolutely not. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I think the Greens will have a decent sway at Holyrood, there's a definite affinity between the parties that's just not there with the other parties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The greens won't block another referendum. They have 6 seats and thousands of new members PRECISELY because of the last referendum. It would be political suicide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomhill Ultra Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The greens won't block another referendum. They have 6 seats and thousands of new members PRECISELY because of the last referendum. It would be political suicide. Absolutely true, the SNP won't propose unless they feel it's a foregone conclusion so why would Green's possibly block? I know Robin Harper favoured a No vote, is being a Yesser a prerequisite now for candidates? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 No, complete irrelevance whom will play no role at all in holding anyone to anything, the only possible influence they could have is to block a referendum. Fuzzy, you are starting to do my head in. You're "they're wrong and should be ridiculed for it" type of posting is what's turning previous NO voters away from YES. Your participation in other threads is cringeworthy, and does nothing positive for YES. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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