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51 minutes ago, Swello said:

I think it started the whole end of season "tradition" 

 

I'm sure it was the first time it happened, I certainly don't remember it happening before. I think it was largely borne out of sheer relief more than anything else that day, as it looked for all the world we were doomed to the playoffs when 1-2 down and everything before that goal was going against us and it looked like it just wasn't our day. Memory may be hazy here in my old age but I'm pretty sure we had one cleared off the line just before they went up the park to score their second goal. It was just a ridiculously good strike from Van Der Gaag, he really couldn't have hit that any better if he'd tried and you knew it was in from the second it left his boot.

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You want to build something and build something, that is never going to be the case here.

We can’t keep players. Once they play at the level they play at then they have interest in them. We are prepared for every eventuality.

It is a short, short career, they could be finished with one kick, one incident.

Our players seem to attract a lot of attention. I take it as credit that we are doing something very right.

More than a hint of frustration from Robbo here. It must be extremely challenging having to rebuild constantly. Maybe tomorrow's game and the extra 60 grand with finishing seventh is more significant than we think?

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1 hour ago, ropy said:

Just watched the BBC World Services programme on Motherwell, very powerful, now making the wife watch it so that she understands 

Yep - brilliant stuff and genuinely makes you proud to be part of the whole thing....

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5 hours ago, capt_oats said:

 

Also, while I'm here: Happy Based Craig Reid Day erryone...

 

Something that I feel goes unnoticed is that Keith Lasley was apparently capable of hitting 60 yard free kicks into the opposition goal mouth and we decided to utilise it exactly once in his career.

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6 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:

Something that I feel goes unnoticed is that Keith Lasley was apparently capable of hitting 60 yard free kicks into the opposition goal mouth and we decided to utilise it exactly once in his career.

On the SPFL video about it, McCall describes it as 'the biggest kick he's ever taken', seems about right.

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1 minute ago, DylanMFC said:

Overheard someone talking about Gillespie being away in the summer, Anyone seen anything?

Surely you can't keep two first team keepers in Carson and Gillespie?

Carson I'd imagine is still the club's number one so Gillespie will be off?

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28 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

Surely you can't keep two first team keepers in Carson and Gillespie?

Carson I'd imagine is still the club's number one so Gillespie will be off?

It's a bit of a weird situation. Gillespie was brought in because we thought there was a chance Carson was off last summer (given the offer from Celtic we kb'd which ended up with Bain moving there and IIRC Cardiff were rumoured to be interested). However nothing materialised and we've seen the season out with both on the books (along with Rohan Ferguson). If we managed it this season there's no reason we couldn't budget-wise next season.

In honesty this season has shown why we really should have 3 keepers available. Last season we had to draft in the bold Gennadios Xenodochof short term because Carson picked up an injury and we didn't have a 'keeper available for the bench. This coincided with our December Slump as we had Russell Griffiths and his lettuce wrists in goals and the drop-off between Carson and him was huge.

Basically we'd have been fairly fucked this season if Gillespie hadn't been our back-up option. Gillespie's got the gloves just now and I'd say he'd be considered our #1 however both their contracts are up at the end of next season. I'd say that Gillespie is almost certainly more of a sellable asset given he's younger than Carson and being really fucking cold about it the nature of Carson's injury would almost certainly put a question mark over him for potential buyers.

Gillespie's been really, really good and seeing as we famously couldn't seem to find a buyer for Randolph I'd expect we'd be listening if there was interest (that's a fairly 'duh!' statement I know).

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1 hour ago, capt_oats said:

It's a bit of a weird situation. Gillespie was brought in because we thought there was a chance Carson was off last summer (given the offer from Celtic we kb'd which ended up with Bain moving there and IIRC Cardiff were rumoured to be interested). However nothing materialised and we've seen the season out with both on the books (along with Rohan Ferguson). If we managed it this season there's no reason we couldn't budget-wise next season.

In honesty this season has shown why we really should have 3 keepers available. Last season we had to draft in the bold Gennadios Xenodochof short term because Carson picked up an injury and we didn't have a 'keeper available for the bench. This coincided with our December Slump as we had Russell Griffiths and his lettuce wrists in goals and the drop-off between Carson and him was huge.

Basically we'd have been fairly fucked this season if Gillespie hadn't been our back-up option. Gillespie's got the gloves just now and I'd say he'd be considered our #1 however both their contracts are up at the end of next season. I'd say that Gillespie is almost certainly more of a sellable asset given he's younger than Carson and being really fucking cold about it the nature of Carson's injury would almost certainly put a question mark over him for potential buyers.

Gillespie's been really, really good and seeing as we famously couldn't seem to find a buyer for Randolph I'd expect we'd be listening if there was interest (that's a fairly 'duh!' statement I know).

Some good keepers released in England just now in lower leagues a 6.4 foot guy that just got on the Chilie squad in 2018 was at Swindon 

And a guy from Crewe that was in England youth level teams

 

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Well deserved. 

As for yesterday, pretty grim stuff all round I’m afraid. Hard to tell whether we’ve chucked it or teams have just sussed us out.

Either way, some hot takes if you will-

If anyone genuinely wants to give us 400k for Cadden, snap their hand off. 

Grimshaw had a good run of form post winter break but has resorted to type since he got his new contract, he’s a squad player at best. Get Tait back to the right and let Carroll/Livingstone fight it out for left back next season.

Without Gorrin orchestrating things, the drop off in quality in our midfield is noticeable- our football is also so slow and predictable. Turnbull was virtually playing as a third centre back in the 2nd half just to try and get on the ball. I assume there’s more to the story of him not being involved yesterday than he’s simply leaving?

As for next week, genuinely wouldn’t bother playing anyone who’s not signing. Would be more than happy for us go full on young Motherwell and see what happens. 

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53 minutes ago, Casagolda said:

 

Without Gorrin orchestrating things, the drop off in quality in our midfield is noticeable- our football is also so slow and predictable. Turnbull was virtually playing as a third centre back in the 2nd half just to try and get on the ball. I assume there’s more to the story of him not being involved yesterday than he’s simply leaving?

Without Gorrin and due to McHugh's absence of any idea of perception on the park - added to lack of pace we're left with Campbell needing to be box to box, defensive midfield and supporting striker all at once.  

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1 hour ago, Casagolda said:

Without Gorrin orchestrating things, the drop off in quality in our midfield is noticeable- our football is also so slow and predictable. Turnbull was virtually playing as a third centre back in the 2nd half just to try and get on the ball. I assume there’s more to the story of him not being involved yesterday than he’s simply leaving?

To add to the Gorrin omission that was only the 2nd time since the winter break that Frear's not been involved in a squad (the last time was the 1-0 win against Hibs at FP). It's fair to say Frear's been a bit part player but it's unusual for him to not have been in the squad.

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