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As @Casagolda absolutely nails above , £3M is a tremendous amount for the club to bank , completes our quest to become debt free , and helps secure the club's short to mid term future .

A lot of people have lost sight of that and are having very public meltdowns and digs at the club , when they have no idea of any clauses or gentleman's agreements which may have been put in place when the bold Div signed his contract extension , or how any release clause or acceptable bid amount was set .

I will be gutted to see the boy go , and particularly if it does indeed end up being to another team in the same league , but I'm also comfortable that Mr Burrows et al will have done , and continue to do their utmost to get the best deals they can for our players .

Still got my fingers crossed the Celtic talks fall in their arse and he heads off down south right enough .

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3 minutes ago, MJC said:

I sincerely hope it's the £3M we said we would hold out for and not an 'undisclosed fee' which would hint at us being shafted.

He was always going to go but it's all the more annoying that it's to that particular club, and if he does indeed end up there then in all honesty f**k him, I hope his career ends in failure.

Firstly, with regards to an undisclosed fee, no it does not mean we've been shafted. 

Secondly, with regards to your last point, grow up. 

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10 minutes ago, MJC said:

He was always going to go but it's all the more annoying that it's to that particular club, and if he does indeed end up there then in all honesty f**k him, I hope his career ends in failure.

Any  chance you could PM me your address, as I'm thinking of popping round and kicking your c**t in.

 

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1 minute ago, Desp said:

Firstly, with regards to an undisclosed fee, no it does not mean we've been shafted. 

Secondly, with regards to your last point, grow up. 

I'm as grown up as I'm ever going to be. I don't hide my views on that particular club and I reiterate, if David Turnbull ends up there then f**k him, I will wish him nothing but failure.

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I'm as grown up as I'm ever going to be. I don't hide my views on that particular club and I reiterate, if David Turnbull ends up there then f**k him, I will wish him nothing but failure.
Which would be worse for Motherwell... You want players you've developed to be a success wherever they end up. It helps attract talented youngsters in the future. It is likely to get you more cash for your young players going forward.

I honestly get not wanting to sell to Celtic or Rangers, my clubs done it multiple times. But wanting the players your club has developed to fail (unless they have utterly shafted you, which Turnbull hasn't) is a nonsense.
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18 minutes ago, MJC said:

I'm as grown up as I'm ever going to be. I don't hide my views on that particular club and I reiterate, if David Turnbull ends up there then f**k him, I will wish him nothing but failure.

I'm not convinced that we've got full value from this- but to wish a boy, whose attitude has been spot on, to fail is shite patter. Doubly so as we presumably stand to gain if he does well and gets an actual decent move next time....

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3 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Which would be worse for Motherwell... You want players you've developed to be a success wherever they end up. It helps attract talented youngsters in the future. It is likely to get you more cash for your young players going forward.

I honestly get not wanting to sell to Celtic or Rangers, my clubs done it multiple times. But wanting the players your club has developed to fail (unless they have utterly shafted you, which Turnbull hasn't) is a nonsense.

It honestly makes no difference to me whatsoever what happens once a player has left Motherwell FC, I support the club not any particular player so what happens once they leave us doesn't really matter to me. In this case, it's a player signing for what is my (to put it lightly) least favourite club so I certainly don't wish him any success in his career with them. David Turnbull is a very good player who in all likelihood will do well at the club he's likely to be joining, but I certainly don't wish him well there. Had he gone anywhere else I would still have been gutted to see him go but I would have wished him well, though my interest in his career path would end in the same way it would with any other players who leave Motherwell.

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Not at our demand.  A release clause is just that.  A release clause.  Why would Celtic offer cash that automatically active his release then offer above that?


Depends on the wording, remember a few years back arsenal offered £1 over the release clause to talk to Suárez and Liverpool told them no. Pretty sure it was something to do with them informing him of their interest but not we must sell at that price.
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1 minute ago, thisGRAEME said:

Shiter.

World will probably continue to turn.

All aboard the Allan Campbell lifting the Scottish cup bus. 

Exactly, we've lost players to bigger clubs before and it'll happen again. Consign Turnbull to the history books and move on.

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7 minutes ago, MJC said:

Exactly, we've lost players to bigger clubs before and it'll happen again. Consign Turnbull to the history books and move on.

Please do not include me in your crackpot views.

Thank you.

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2 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:

Please do not include me in your crackpot views.

Thank you.

I don't think there was anything crackpot about saying move on and consign a former player to the history books to be honest. In any event it was you who said that the world will keep turning, not me. My views on the player joining Celtic are nothing to do with anyone other than myself and I don't claim to speak for anyone else.

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2 minutes ago, ATLIS said:

Rumour going about that we're after Hastie on a season long loan

That'd be a sore one if true, we should be in there for Hastie if he's going to be punted out on loan.

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I was surprised when I heard a fee had been agreed on the radio earlier tonight but at £3m with significant add-ons (according to the BBC report) I think we've got the most we were ever going to get. We've gone from trying to up the ante in the media by saying we'd be looking to beat our record transfer (£1.75m for o'Donnell), to saying we would significantly better it (suspected to be hoping for £2m - £2.5m, to accepting a reported £3m. That's a lot of money when we've only really had a season out of him but they are buying potential.

I get that folk are upset at him moving to Celtic and I would have preferred him to be going elsewhere so he doesn't play against us but the club has to make the decision from a business sense. There was lots of comment on here when Celtic reportedly offered £1.2m that we should tell them to come back when they're willing to pay £3m - well, they seem to have done that so you can't turn round and say we now want more.

I'm slightly surprised at Celtic meeting our demands though as I can't quite see where he fits into their team with the midfield they have. It would be interesting if this prompts an English club to also meet our demands and he has a choice to make. He's still young so it might be he has always had a preference not to move away from home and sees Celtic as the only club in Celtic able to buy him and as somewhere he can progress (on the basis that Motherwell really couldn't turn down that sort of money).

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13 minutes ago, MJC said:

That'd be a sore one if true, we should be in there for Hastie if he's going to be punted out on loan.

Now I'm not sure if you're being serious here but, 

You are willing to take back and develop a player for Rangers, who although he was well within his rights to leave the club, ensured we would get nowhere near market value for him or allow us to insert clauses in to any sale.

Yet, little over an hour ago you are wishing a guy who signed a contract to ensure we were able to get a fee that will probably free the club of debt and if spent wisely hopefully ensure that more players come through the youth system fails miserably in his future career. 

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