Peter Millar Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 12 minutes ago, Vietnam91 said: @Peter Millar see you've been a member on SOL since 2010, however only started posting for the first time 2 days after the scheme went live on the 10th of June 2024. Posts are exclusively on the scheme (not the new strip, transfers or social media content). One thing that is consistent is pretty much tyre kicking the clubs value or ability to be successful without Erik's influence. So, is there anything anyone on here can do to make you reject this? I’m not sure the length of my membership with SOL has to do with anything but it’s the club I love and I think I have as much to offer the debate as anyone else. I’m not too bothered about new strips, and I’ve been watching players, directors, owners, managers, comms plans etc come and go for years. The one consistent has been the fans. The things I have been consistently consistent on since you’ve mentioned it are - I don’t think American based ownership has worked in Scotland, as courageous and hardworking as they are I don’t think the current Well Society board have the skills to direct the Executive Board towards meaningful growth. I like Erik’s big thinking, however I hope the Well Society can produce a proposal that I can vote for and prove me wrong. I earnestly hope for that. i don’t think anything anyone can say will change my mind on American based ownership. Erik would need to do that if he wins the vote, and I do as I have said hope the Well Society prove me wrong but only their proposal will do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Millar Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Vietnam91 said: 250k in a 750k funding gap is a third of it. You do make arguments like Erik, I only say this because I've got 40 hours logged talking to him. It still doesn’t touch the sides in providing sustainable growth I had hoped this was a discussion rather than argument. Edited June 26 by Peter Millar Missed words. Should have gone to specsavers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Peter Millar said: It still doesn’t touch the sides in providing sustainable growth I had hoped this was a discussion rather than argument. I'm not arguing. If 250k extra for finishing 10th "doesn't touch the sides", intrigued to know exactly does 300k from Erik do? No questioning the length of time you have been on it, 14 years is quite a while without any contributions, but then boom, 12th of June and you're up and running. It's the nature of your posting. On one topic and that only. The subject is so important you join here to carry it on. Edited June 26 by Vietnam91 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 minutes ago, Peter Millar said: I like Erik’s big thinking, however I hope the Well Society can produce a proposal that I can vote for and prove me wrong. I earnestly hope for that. Again, in the spirit of discussion; what big thinking? Genuinely yet to see anything that quantifies such a title. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Not that I don't love Higdon but KVV is a level above him for me. Similar goal returns in astronomically worse teams but with much more individual entertainment value while somehow having an even bigger chip on his shoulder. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 minutes ago, Peter Millar said: I’m not sure the length of my membership with SOL has to do with anything but it’s the club I love and I think I have as much to offer the debate as anyone else. I’m not too bothered about new strips, and I’ve been watching players, directors, owners, managers, comms plans etc come and go for years. The one consistent has been the fans. The things I have been consistently consistent on since you’ve mentioned it are - I don’t think American based ownership has worked in Scotland, as courageous and hardworking as they are I don’t think the current Well Society board have the skills to direct the Executive Board towards meaningful growth. I like Erik’s big thinking, however I hope the Well Society can produce a proposal that I can vote for and prove me wrong. I earnestly hope for that. i don’t think anything anyone can say will change my mind on American based ownership. Erik would need to do that if he wins the vote, and I do as I have said hope the Well Society prove me wrong but only their proposal will do that. Are we voting on a Well Society proposal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Manhattan Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 minutes ago, Peter Millar said: i don’t think anything anyone can say will change my mind 4 minutes ago, Peter Millar said: I had hoped this was a discussion rather than argument. I know I'm quoting you selectively and out of context, but the juxtaposition here tickled me somewhat. Several people have pointed out to you above that it's not an either/or face-off between the Wild Sheep proposal and the Well Society, but you haven't acknowledged this, and keep coming back to it as pretty much the sole factor in your vote. Perhaps you could explain this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 minute ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Not that I don't love Higdon but KVV is a level above him for me. Similar goal returns in astronomically worse teams but with much more individual entertainment value while somehow having an even bigger chip on his shoulder. On a pure ability basis: Without doubt, but I'm not sure I've ever enjoyed a player as much as Higdon. From what we expected, to what we got, no-one came close. That goal at Tannadice where the ball bobbled, and because of the bobble, it absolutely leathered past the keeper from about 25 yards; perfection. That there is still a sect of Motherwell fans that don't recognise him for what he was, and will tell you that he wasn't all that, remains absolutely fucking hilarious to me. Player of the year! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Not that I don't love Higdon but KVV is a level above him for me. Similar goal returns in astronomically worse teams but with much more individual entertainment value while somehow having an even bigger chip on his shoulder. Higdon getting lifted after the POTY dinner - and also saying in the post match interview "I've got that in me locker" with a straight face after scoring the slowest overhead kick of all time puts him just above KVV for me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Millar Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 8 minutes ago, Vietnam91 said: I'm not arguing. If 250k extra for finishing 10th "doesn't touch the sides", intrigued to know exactly does 300k from Erik do? No questioning the length of time you have been on it, 14 years is quite a while without any contributions, but then boom, 12th of June and you're up and running. It's the nature of your posting. On one topic and that only. The subject is so important you join here to carry it on. I didn’t say Erik’s 300k would touch the sides I’ve only said I liked some of his ideas and I do. Hopefully I will like the Well Society ideas better and there will be a good deliverable plan there that will provide sustainable growth. To be honest I’m a bit surprised I’ve posted myself. I never really get that bothered with the politics of football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: On a pure ability basis: Without doubt, but I'm not sure I've ever enjoyed a player as much as Higdon. From what we expected, to what we got, no-one came close. That goal at Tannadice where the ball bobbled, and because of the bobble, it absolutely leathered past the keeper from about 25 yards; perfection. That there is still a sect of Motherwell fans that don't recognise him for what he was, and will tell you that he wasn't all that, remains absolutely fucking hilarious to me. Player of the year! Aye it's your list at the end of the day! I reckon if I reacquaint myself with a Higdon goal compilation I might see things differently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, Peter Millar said: I didn’t say Erik’s 300k would touch the sides I’ve only said I liked some of his ideas and I do. Hopefully I will like the Well Society ideas better and there will be a good deliverable plan there that will provide sustainable growth. To be honest I’m a bit surprised I’ve posted myself. I never really get that bothered with the politics of football. You didn't no, I'll give you that. You said a figure 50,000 quid less wouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, Swello said: Higdon getting lifted after the POTY dinner - and also saying in the post match interview "I've got that in me locker" with a straight face after scoring the slowest overhead kick of all time puts him just above KVV for me. I'm still a bit sad we never got to see the aftermath of a KVV POTY victory speech. It'd definitely be less box office than Higdons but much, much weirder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Aye it's your list at the end of the day! I reckon if I reacquaint myself with a Higdon goal compilation I might see things differently. 10 whole minutes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, YassinMoutaouakil said: I'm still a bit sad we never got to see the aftermath of a KVV POTY victory speech. It'd definitely be less box office than Higdons but much, much weirder. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Millar Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 minutes ago, Vietnam91 said: You didn't no, I'll give you that. You said a figure 50,000 quid less wouldn't. I dont think either figure will touch the sides. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, Peter Millar said: I dont think either figure will touch the sides. That's what you're voting on then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Millar Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 minute ago, Vietnam91 said: That's what you're voting on then I’ve just told you what I will take into account when voting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 25 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: Again, in the spirit of discussion; what big thinking? Exploring new worlds, m8. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 19 minutes ago, Peter Millar said: I didn’t say Erik’s 300k would touch the sides I’ve only said I liked some of his ideas and I do. Hopefully I will like the Well Society ideas better and there will be a good deliverable plan there that will provide sustainable growth. This has been mentioned a few times by a few different people but what ideas has he actually come out with that would develop the football club? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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