Double Winning St Johnstone FC Thread

[johnoswald2712]

1 hour ago, PauloPerth said:

Enjoying the irony of Saints fans online who slaughtered the previous manager at every opportunity from day one saying how we all need to get behind the new manager.

 

Not going to lie, that applies to me. However in my defence, the new manager was appointed after an open recruitment process so deserves our support. The last manager got the job because he was a mate of the chairman/owner at the time. Quite a significant difference. Also he has already energized a support that has been beaten down by years of tedious, defensive football. That in itself is deserving of our support 

[SJFCtheTeamForMe]

2 hours ago, PauloPerth said:

Enjoying the irony of Saints fans online who slaughtered the previous manager at every opportunity from day one saying how we all need to get behind the new manager.

 

You're right

Although I can't say anything. If he was in charge as of now I would have bit the bullet and went to Ibrox to get behind him.

Now that we know it's Kirk and co in charge again, will I be going? Absolutely not.

[Tattie-bogle]

2 hours ago, Fife Saint said:

Cami will love that.

 

[Theyellowbox]

3 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said:

You're right

Although I can't say anything. If he was in charge as of now I would have bit the bullet and went to Ibrox to get behind him.

Now that we know it's Kirk and co in charge again, will I be going? Absolutely not.

I predict that if he doesn't like what he sees vs Rangers, he will either head down to the touchline or if not possible due to Visa, then will be phoning down.

I liked the interview. Feels full of passion and says all the right things. How that translates into performances is what counts and whether the players buy into it. If not, they'll be away in Jan and he'll bring in his own. 

[gingermunkie]

3 hours ago, Ivo den Bieman said:

 The Lativan season will finish up in the first weekend of November so I wonder if he has tapped up a few of these guys.

Am I right in thinking anyone signed this was wouldn’t be able to play until Jan? Guess it just gives them a months to get to know each other in training in time for our romp to third place!

Brexit Rules mean we’d struggle to get many, but as has been said, it’s bloody exciting!!

[Honest Saints Fan]

I am weirdly not that excited and only because it's still the same shite players. I'll revisit this come January.

[blueheaven]

4 hours ago, PauloPerth said:

Enjoying the irony of Saints fans online who slaughtered the previous manager at every opportunity from day one saying how we all need to get behind the new manager.

 

In fairness I think most fans, while sceptical of the Levein appointment, were willing to give him a chance and be supportive at first, particularly after the first few games where it seemed like he'd solidified us a bit. But he didn't exactly meet us halfway, did he? From Day One he came across as unenthusiastic, aloof and gave the impression that he was only here to do us all a favour. You can maybe get away with that if you're getting results on the pitch and dragging us up the table, but he was doing a really, really bad job and everyone could see that.

I think Valakari's enthusiasm, and the fact that he's come from outside Scottish football to win the job on merit (as opposed to just being here because he happened to be sitting in the stand at one of our games), will buy him more time with the fans if things don't go well at first. But ultimately he's going to have to get results too or the pressure will be on him in the same way as it was Levein.

[Mr Heliums]

42 minutes ago, blueheaven said:

In fairness I think most fans, while sceptical of the Levein appointment, were willing to give him a chance and be supportive at first, particularly after the first few games where it seemed like he'd solidified us a bit. 

My feeling on Levein's appointment was that even if it wasn't exciting, at least there was a grown-up in charge. But at his first interview there was evidence that this particular grown up was either apathetic or bemused by the task ahead. He showed little knowledge of players' names or fitness status, he was vague about upcoming games, and there was no attempt to enthuse supporters; no vision, even in the broadest terms, for what he wanted St Johnstone to be. 

I remember him saying – I think in that same interview – that he'd wanted one last crack at football management. But by the end of it, you were left with the feeling that he didn't actually want it that much.

That interview set the template for his career with us: brittle, defensive and passive. It was hard to get behind the manager, because not once did he give the impression of being on our side.

Edited 9 hours ago by Mr Heliums

[johnoswald2712]

6 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said:

I remember him saying – I think in that same interview – that he'd wanted one last crack at football management. But by the end of it, you were left with the feeling that he didn't actually want it that much.

Think he said he wanted to see if he could still do it. My answer is unequivocal. You can’t. You never could 

[Ivo den Bieman]

2 hours ago, gingermunkie said:

Am I right in thinking anyone signed this was wouldn’t be able to play until Jan? Guess it just gives them a months to get to know each other in training in time for our romp to third place!

Brexit Rules mean we’d struggle to get many, but as has been said, it’s bloody exciting!!

If they're free agent and of sufficient standing as players you could sign them tomorrow and get them through the door as far as I understand.

But yes contracted players will have to wait until January. I guess my clumsy point was that this guy's contact book won't just be the  Daily Record's "Gies a Game" database.

[The Saintee]

If Levein was playing up the chilled and quippy podcast persona then it failed big time. 

It just looked like he couldn't be bothered. And coming away with things like not knowing if we were home or away or who was injured just sent all the wrong signals to a group of fans that were pretty scunnered all round. 

[Saint Huck]

1 hour ago, Ivo den Bieman said:

But yes contracted players will have to wait until January. I guess my clumsy point was that this guy's contact book won't just be the  Daily Record's "Gies a Game" database.

Gus MacPherson's contact book might ..... just saying ....

[Tattie-bogle]

I tend to think we are at a point now where we have to stick rather than twist. No matter what happens this season this is our man and he should have at least 3 transfer windows and see where we are. We need some stability going forward, even if it gets a lot worse before it gets better.

I expect a taxi for Simo thread on WAP in about 4 Weeks mind you

[PSJ.84]

He’s definitely ambitious anyway. 
 

 

[The Saintee]

Fantastic  

None of the negative shite we've been getting in recent times. 

[Kyle]

Just give him the entire rainy day fund. This guy will win us a treble lads,  bookmark it

[chopface]

2 hours ago, PSJ.84 said:

He’s definitely ambitious anyway. 
 

 

Not sure about the interviewer but your new manager seems great - big fan already. Maybe Aberdeen St Johnstone games will finally improve!

[Miguel Sanchez]

If we're doing lookalikes he looks more like Jeremy Irons in Die Hard With a Vengeance than anything else to me