TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ross. said: Alternative view there is that you had a stadium and training ground for £5.5m, get 45k+ a week in gates and have overspent by around £10m a year just to finish ahead of a tinpot club. Not sure who that makes more tinpot? Well that's a very reductive way of looking at it. Anyone with a logical mind can see the strides forward we've made under Gerrard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, TavTastic said: Well that's a very reductive way of looking at it. Anyone with a logical mind can see the strides forward we've made under Gerrard. Those strides anything to do with spending loads of money you don't have on your team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, TavTastic said: Well that's a very reductive way of looking at it. Anyone with a logical mind can see the strides forward we've made under Gerrard. If pointing out economic reality regarding spending massively more than you generate is 'reductive' then I suppose so. A few months down the line and you will be a mess of tears and snotters saying 'why didn't anybody warn us?' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, JTS98 said: Those strides anything to do with spending loads of money you don't have on your team? What you mean board members investing in our club as they always said was the plan? You do realise most clubs run at a loss including the near entirety of the English Championship often to a far more significant extent? You're not making any logical point here. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I can see the BRALT getting heavy use soon. Happy Days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Ken Fitlike said: A few months down the line and you will be a mess of tears and snotters saying 'why didn't anybody warn us?' hahahahahahaha sure we will Kenny. Just you update me when that happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Well that's a very reductive way of looking at it. Anyone with a logical mind can see the strides forward we've made under Gerrard. You have. And I’m sure when Gerrard eventually leaves Ibrox for a bottom half EPL side he’ll be fondly remembered for his impenetrable hairstyle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TavTastic said: What you mean board members investing in our club as they always said was the plan? You do realise most clubs run at a loss including the near entirety of the English Championship often to a far more significant extent? You're not making any logical point here. The English Championship is indeed a financial basket case. Financial emergencies are hardly rare down there. There's a team called Bolton you might want to read up on. Another team spent a lot of money trying to get into the Championship and aren't playing football any more. You'd think Rangers fans would have learned their lesson. The idea of the Hearts support tolerating the club being put at risk financially is ridiculous, but Rangers fans seem to be happy to sleepwalk into oblivion. The spivvs fooled them once, and Rangers fans seem keen to be fooled again. Imagine playing in the Europa League and still losing more than ten million quid. Edited November 14, 2019 by JTS98 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Don't forget that HMRC is run mostly by Catholics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, JTS98 said: You'd think Rangers fans would have learned their lesson. The idea of the Hearts support tolerating the club being put at risk financially is ridiculous, but Rangers fans seem to be happy to sleepwalk into oblivion. The spivvs fooled them once, and Rangers fans seem keen to be fooled again. Imagine playing in the Europa League and still losing more than ten million quid. If you actually think that we are "sleepwalking into oblivion" with a wage to turnover ratio of 63% then you really need to do some research because you don't know what you are talking about. I don't think you do actually believe that incidentally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TavTastic said: If you actually think that we are "sleepwalking into oblivion" with a wage to turnover ratio of 63% then you really need to do some research because you don't know what you are talking about. I don't think you do actually believe that incidentally. Your turnover will never be higher than Europa League level, barring a big player sale, and you still lost more than ten million quid. It's completely unsustainable. Yet Rangers responded by throwing good money after the bad. Failing to stop Celtic get 9 and 10 in a row will kill your club. Like the old one. Edited November 14, 2019 by JTS98 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Was tavtastic out with Kincardine last night? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, TavTastic said: Well that's a very reductive way of looking at it. Anyone with a logical mind can see the strides forward we've made under Gerrard. I don't disagree. Largely though I think finishing behind Aberdeen 2 years running was a sign of monumental mismanagement, rather than Gerrard being a fantastic manager. You are now where you should be, given the resources made available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, JTS98 said: Your turnover will never be higher than that and you still lost more than ten million quid. It's completely unsustainable. Yet Rangers responded by throwing good money after the bad. Failing to stop Celtic get 9 and 10 in a row will kill your club. Like the old one. Oh dear bud quit while you are only slightly behind. You've had an absolute shocker here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, TavTastic said: Oh dear bud quit while you are only slightly behind. You've had an absolute shocker here. Haha! It's like 2010-11 all over again. 'Nothing to see here, nothing to see.' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ross. said: I don't disagree. Largely though I think finishing behind Aberdeen 2 years running was a sign of monumental mismanagement, rather than Gerrard being a fantastic manager. You are now where you should be, given the resources made available. Yeah I fully agree on the mismanagement. Problem was the hugely expensive Pedro disaster. Although I think you are doing Gerrard a great disservice here. Getting through a full set of qualifiers twice in a row was a big achievement and his European record is unarguably strong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Sevco are like a guy who drinks himself almost to death, gets a liver transplant, then heads straight to the pub from the hospital to start all over again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, TavTastic said: Yeah I fully agree on the mismanagement. Problem was the hugely expensive Pedro disaster. Although I think you are doing Gerrard a great disservice here. Getting through a full set of qualifiers twice in a row was a big achievement and his European record is unarguably strong. Last season I think he done what I expected, there were no real big scalps in Europe. The results against Porto were impressive, I'll give him that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Ross. said: Last season I think he done what I expected, there were no real big scalps in Europe. The results against Porto were impressive, I'll give him that. Yeah that's fair although the consistency of results in qualifiers is another factor in his favour. Very common for Scottish sides to slip up in qualifiers against weaker sides. Better Rangers/Celtic teams in the past have done that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, TavTastic said: Yeah that's fair although the consistency of results in qualifiers is another factor in his favour. Very common for Scottish sides to slip up in qualifiers against weaker sides. Better Rangers/Celtic teams in the past have done that too. I suppose there is a deep irony in that the results have been carried by a Pedro signing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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