TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ross. said: I suppose there is a deep irony in that the results have been carried by a Pedro signing. Pedro's cheaper signings of £1m for Jack/Morelos much better than the millions he wasted on Pena, Herrera, et al. Edited November 14, 2019 by TavTastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, TavTastic said: Anyone with a logical mind can see the strides forward we've made under Gerrard. Signing over 30 players and not seeing forward strides would be a problem for most clubs. If Slippy G doesn't win silverware this season will the board trust him for another go or will he go back down the road with his tail between his legs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, wastecoatwilly said: Signing over 30 players and not seeing forward strides would be a problem for most clubs. If Slippy G doesn't win silverware this season will the board trust him for another go or will he go back down the road with his tail between his legs. Are you suggesting the use of financial resource to sign players generates an expectation of success? Interesting idea. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: If Slippy G doesn't win silverware this season will the board trust him for another go or will he go back down the road with his tail between his legs. Depends on a number of factors including European results and how tight the league was. Just like in 2010-2011 when Celtic stuck with Lennon because of the high points total and how close he came to winning the league that year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Are you suggesting the use of financial resource to sign players generates an expectation of success? Interesting idea. Do you think Aberdeen could run at a loss every year and be in a better position? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, TavTastic said: Depends on a number of factors including European results and how tight the league was. Just like in 2010-2011 when Celtic stuck with Lennon because of the high points total and how close he came to winning the league that year. Getting to the European group stages was more important than any silverware in Scotland given sevco's financial back ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Good explanation on twitter 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Who could Those with Agendas" be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Romeo said: Good explanation on twitter Yeah that doesn't really work here. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: Are you suggesting the use of financial resource to sign players generates an expectation of success? Interesting idea. These players maybe have more football knowledge. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugna Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, TavTastic said: If you actually think that we are "sleepwalking into oblivion" with a wage to turnover ratio of 63% then you really need to do some research because you don't know what you are talking about. I don't think you do actually believe that incidentally. That actually seemed quite a fair point to me, on the face of it. There's a lot of talk of quite substantial losses, and loans being converted to equity at the market price from when there were far lower losses and very little in the way of loans - which superficially might tend to indicate that the club is getting some "cheap money". That seems quite important, but accounting ratios are also important (although this is a very football-specific one, given the very high per-employee rates). I tried to check the 2011 position for Rangers, for comparison, but could only find a copy of the 2010 accounts. In that year, with a turnover of £56.3m, wages ("total payroll costs") were at 50% of turnover, and the Finance Director seemed quite happy about that. So I suppose it's at least possible to be heading for liquidation at 63% wages-to-turnover. It may be necessary to take other factors into account, such as year-on-year profit/losses, in order to rule it out. I find the finances interesting for two reasons: There are actually facts to be taken into account from the audited accounts and elsewhere; but It's impossible to second-guess how King the directors will play it, and so any predictions based upon the facts are likely to be confounded. tl;dr It's all very confusing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: These players maybe have more football knowledge. Get it right FFS most successful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, Romeo said: Who could Those with Agendas" be? Your "sort" obvs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, AberdeenHibee said: Absolutely hilarious. The Rangers 2012 fans still let their club die. They all collectively held a shovel, allowed it to be turfed over and have carried on like nothing ever happened, all whilst the 1872 Rangers FC lay screaming in the soil. None of them actually care about the club. It's a means to compensate for their own lack of self-esteem. The minute it looks as if it can't service that need, they aren't interested. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCelt67 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Romeo said: Who could Those with Agendas" be? The 'left fiters'. We've been oppressing the white Protestant majority of Scotland for quite some time now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Your "sort" obvs.Protestants who were in the boys brigade..?If you say so bigot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Romeo said: Protestants who were in the boys brigade..? Exactly. Disgusting behaviour. Spoiler BBs? Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TavTastic said: Yeah that doesn't really work here. Well sure. To make it a proper analogy, the original shoplifter would have to have died in the interim, and it's the guy who bought his house afterwards who's demanding the rebate. Edited November 14, 2019 by Aim Here 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Aim Here said: Well sure. To make it a proper analogy, the original shoplifter would have to have died in the interim, and it's the guy who bought his house afterwards who's demanding the rebate. To be fair the guy that bought his house has told everyone that his name is the same as the guy who died, and he's spent the last four years acting the c**t just like the first guy. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Also posted this on the BRALT - but under Craig Whyte they were still collecting PAYE deductions due but never made them to HMRC, I'm sure? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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