G51 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Halkett is shite and made to look better than he was due to Livingston. He had a whole team around him built to defend, while he was giving the priority in terms of playing the ball forward from the back. So he comes out looking like a defensively sound ball playing CB. Aye, he benefited from Livi's system. He hasn't looked anything close to that player at Hearts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Halkett is shite and made to look better than he was due to Livingston. He had a whole team around him built to defend, while he was giving the priority in terms of playing the ball forward from the back. So he comes out looking like a defensively sound ball playing CB. Yes. The point I'm making is for all the minutes Edmundson has played they'd have been as well have signed a decent centre half from Scotland at the end of contract. Remember they're running a club that's not financially sustainable without continued investment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Yes. The point I'm making is for all the minutes Edmundson has played they'd have been as well have signed a decent centre half from Scotland at the end of contract. Remember they're running a club that's not financially sustainable without continued investment. You sign young/backup players that you believe you can develop and will one day become an important member of the squad. The fact that Rangers released Halkett shows they didn’t believe he was going to develop into that kind of player. So, signing Halkett would’ve made no sense whatsoever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, AJF said: You sign young/backup players that you believe you can develop and will one day become an important member of the squad. The fact that Rangers released Halkett shows they didn’t believe he was going to develop into that kind of player. So, signing Halkett would’ve made no sense whatsoever. For half a million quid? Then give them barely any time? Rangers have resigned players they've previously released. You have also been interested in Kenny McLean and Lewis Ferguson. Two players you released. It's ok to suggest a signing hasn't worked lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Merkland Red said: For half a million quid? Then give them barely any time? Rangers have resigned players they've previously released. You have also been interested in Kenny McLean and Lewis Ferguson. Two players you released. It's ok to suggest a signing hasn't worked lads. I never said the signing of Edmundson has been a success, I’m simply highlighting your suggestion of signing Halkett is quite a mental take. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, AJF said: I never said the signing of Edmundson has been a success, I’m simply highlighting your suggestion of signing Halkett is quite a mental take. Nah. A mental signing would be Jack Wilshere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: For half a million quid? Then give them barely any time? Rangers have resigned players they've previously released. You have also been interested in Kenny McLean and Lewis Ferguson. Two players you released. It's ok to suggest a signing hasn't worked lads. I seriously doubt we were ever interested in Lewis Ferguson. He doesn't fit the profile of what we look for in a midfielder. Edmundson hasn't developed into a first choice CB. But that wasn't what you questioned, you questioned the process behind the signing, which is different. The process was fine IMO - normally this role would be fulfilled by an Academy player, but since our Academy was decimated during the Unpleasantness we signed one for a half a million quid. It's not a big outlay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, G51 said: I seriously doubt we were ever interested in Lewis Ferguson. He doesn't fit the profile of what we look for in a midfielder. Edmundson hasn't developed into a first choice CB. But that wasn't what you questioned, you questioned the process behind the signing, which is different. The process was fine IMO - normally this role would be fulfilled by an Academy player, but since our Academy was decimated during the Unpleasantness we signed one for a half a million quid. It's not a big outlay. Takes like this are why your club are in the state they're in. It's a house of cards reliant on success in Europe. There is absolutely no need for Rangers to spunk half a million on a player from England (he'll be on a decent wage too) if he's fulfilling the role an academy player could. That's exactly my point when I suggested Halkett. Except he'd have cost peanuts in comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Merkland Red said: Takes like this are why your club are in the state they're in. It's a house of cards reliant on success in Europe. There is absolutely no need for Rangers to spunk half a million on a player from England (he'll be on a decent wage too) if he's fulfilling the role an academy player could. That's exactly my point when I suggested Halkett. Except he'd have cost peanuts in comparison. I mean, if you think Rangers are in "a state" financially then please identify the principal risks involved. Tell me why I should be so concerned. If we miss out on European group stage qualification, then the board have committed to covering our funding shortfalls, or we sell one of the high value assets we've got. I'd be very surprised if Edmundson was on a better wage than any of our other cheap punts. He came from Oldham after all. And the difference between Edmundson and Halkett is that one is okay and might become good, whereas Halkett is bad and will remain so! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, G51 said: I mean, if you think Rangers are in "a state" financially then please identify the principal risks involved. Tell me why I should be so concerned. If we miss out on European group stage qualification, then the board have committed to covering our funding shortfalls, or we sell one of the high value assets we've got. I'd be very surprised if Edmundson was on a better wage than any of our other cheap punts. He came from Oldham after all. And the difference between Edmundson and Halkett is that one is okay and might become good, whereas Halkett is bad and will remain so! Remember when David Murray used to make grand statements. That you'd be willing to roll the dice again beggars belief. It's still half a million on a player who 'may come good'. You've won nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Merkland Red said: Remember when David Murray used to make grand statements. That you'd be willing to roll the dice again beggars belief. It's still half a million on a player who 'may come good'. You've won nothing. You have either identified risks in this strategy or you haven't. I'm eagerly waiting to hear them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, G51 said: You have either identified risks in this strategy or you haven't. I'm eagerly waiting to hear them. I've posted them further back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 Good of our big pal Merkin Red to bring us back to reality - of course we're overspending and of course it's unsustainable. The point he misses, though, is that we all know this. Also, in case we're celebrating Sellick dropping two points in E'burgh today, we have this timely reminder of where our place actually is: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 Always a bit of a cringe with these things but nice to hear DJ doing the voiceover and a cameo from Sir John of Greig: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, The_Kincardine said: Always a bit of a cringe with these things but nice to hear DJ doing the voiceover and a cameo from Sir John of Greig: Glasgow Celtic, this is how you do a Christmas advert! With class, dignity and tradition!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, G51 said: Glasgow Celtic, this is how you do a Christmas advert! With class, dignity and tradition!!! Aye but don't encourage the muppets - It's been quite a nice thread over the past couple of weeks. Even Ramblingguy has been quite restrained. I look forward to our big pal @sugnagiving his summary of our books to the end of June. He is usually William Welch Deloitte when it come to analysis and Private Frazer when it comes to outcomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, The_Kincardine said: Aye but don't encourage the muppets Girls just wanna have fun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 According to McBookie, we are currently on the longest winning streak and the longest unbeaten run of any team in top-flight football. Seems good, IMO! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Kincardine Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 hours ago, bennett said: That's very impressive and it's a bit of a shame that our next three matches are in the cup. I'd much prefer we had league fixtures. December's jam-packed with six league and 2 EL games. In the Premiership we have: Sunday 6th December Ross County 12:00 Rangers Sunday 13th December Dundee United 12:00 Rangers Saturday 19th December Rangers 15:00 Motherwell Wednesday 23rd December St Johnstone 19:45 Rangers Saturday 26th December Rangers 12:30 Hibernian Wednesday 30th December St Mirren 19:45 Rangers Lots of judicious squad management needed to get through that lot with a healthy points tally and if we can get to the OF game 14 points ahead I'd be surprised and delighted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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