ayrmad Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: From the Guardian's Brussels correspondent: Jennifer Rankin @JenniferMerode 3h3 hours ago Michel Barnier met Olly Robbins and Tim Barrow on Monday and this is what happened... #Brexit 1 The British diplomats asked to start technical talks led by civil servants, while gov sorts out itself/Queen's speech 2 Barnier said no. EU side want to ensure UK’s chief negotiator has a mandate from the British gov before formal talks can begin 3 EU wants reliable, accountable, chief negotiator with a mandate, but not sure they will get one 4 Barnier told the British he was open to a number of start dates, listing various days of the week. Robbins and Barrow could not name a day 5 Barnier also spent some time explaining to the British the EU's preferred 4-week cycle for running the negotiations 6 Remember UK not done trade talks for decades. The EU has scores of people who specialise in international negotiations, not just trade /7 British gov has not sent any details of its Brexit position to Brussels and no one knows what British really want now/ 8 What an utter car crash we are as a nation. Aside from the fact that I think it's a terrible idea, I'm not convinced that Brexit is achievable at all. Particularly if you have a government so f*cking incompetent that they called an election after triggering Article 50. Not a shock, the UK government try to glide along the water gracefully like a swan while their feet are turning faster than a speedboats propeller, bullshitters extraordinaire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Pure shat it from a hard Brexit.http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40303761 Quote The UK has agreed to sort out its EU "divorce bill" and citizens' residence rights before starting Brexit trade talks, EU sources have told the BBC. But the UK's Brexit department has insisted a trade deal must be agreed at the same time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 It's hard to believe that the Tories are still getting away with peddling the myth that we can leave the Single Market and still get a good trade deal. A responsible media would be highlighting the fact that this is not going to happen. By the time the truth has emerged we will be so far down the road that there will be huge damage to the economy even if the UK tries to backtrack. I can only assume that those who believed the '£350 million for the NHS' slogan on the bus are equally as gullible/stupid when it comes to this issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 With a resounding success for Marie Le Pen in France as well as Geert Wilders in the Netherlands and with a massive majority in the House of Commons, Theresa May can now be assured of exactly the Brexit deal that she wants. How is that plan working out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 "A deal like no other in history" That can be good or bad depending on how you look at it and how this all goes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Aye, nobody seems to give two fucks that "the best deal possible" is almost certainly still a disaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Aye we're trying to get "the best deal" which will probably be worse than what we've got just now. Absolutely farcical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Shit deal or no deal. There's probably a crap daytime TV show in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, zidane's child said: Aye we're trying to get "the best deal" which will probably be worse than what we've got just now. Absolutely farcical. I would think it almost certainly has to be worse, what would be the point of membership if you get the same or better outside the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Why would anyone enter any negotiations looking for anything other than "the best deal possible"? This is pointed out on page 1 of chapter 1 of "Idiot's Guide to Negotiating." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Why would anyone enter any negotiations looking for anything other than "the best deal possible"? This is pointed out on page 1 of chapter 1 of "Idiot's Guide to Negotiating." Do you think they're intelligent enough to get a copy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, ayrmad said: Do you think they're intelligent enough to get a copy? I've got a copy. I've even had a look at page 2 so I know what they are going to say next week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Watching the Day 1 press conf. Needs more questions about Ireland IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 David Allen Green @davidallengreen 3m3 minutes ago Formal confirmation UK has capitulated on day one, on UK's insistence on parallel talks on divorce and trade. EU gets way on sequencing. Well that's a great start. Total capitulation on day 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: I've got a copy. I've even had a look at page 2 so I know what they are going to say next week. Bend over and take some more? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 So the negotiation tactic of quoting Churchill and expecting Frenchie to surrender didn't work? Strange that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 David Allen Green @davidallengreen 3m3 minutes ago Formal confirmation UK has capitulated on day one, on UK's insistence on parallel talks on divorce and trade. EU gets way on sequencing. Well that's a great start. Total capitulation on day 1. I'm sure Davies is on his way to a Michelin star restaurant for chow and a few glasses of Merlot mind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Bend over and take some more? No. You are getting ahead of yourself - last chapter even. Chapter 1 is Bullshitting Chapter 2 is Stalling for time Chapter 3 is Playing a crap hand Chapter 4 is Blaming the other side Chapter 5 is Talking about the Second World War and maybe the first as well. Chapter 6 is Admitting that your tactics have failed and pleading for mercy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 So the negotiation tactic of quoting Churchill and expecting Frenchie to surrender didn't work? Strange that. Tomorrow's tactic: singing "two World Wars and one World Cup" over and over again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gaz said: Tomorrow's tactic: singing "two World Wars and one World Cup" over and over again And by the end of the week when they're too hot, pissed and beaten they'll be reduced to throwing chairs. Sad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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