Colkitto Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Ford cutting 400 jobs in Wales Voted remain. Right up there with the fishermen and farmers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Ford cutting 400 jobs in Wales Buy British. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: 1 hour ago, doulikefish said: Ford cutting 400 jobs in Wales f**k Wales Jacques Cousteau likes this post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Kuenssberg's father was a donor to Scottish Labour as recently as the leadership of Wendy Alexander. I actually think she's a pretty decent journalist. She's miles better than Emily Maitlis, for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Here’s a journalistic counterbalance. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-tories-labour-coal-mines-leave-remain-a8757896.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Truth in jest. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Here’s a journalistic counterbalance. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-tories-labour-coal-mines-leave-remain-a8757896.html Hopefully these scumbags get binned by their local party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Jacques Cousteau likes this post. John McAfee likes it first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, welshbairn said: I think Kuenssberg is as objective as they come. Without her we wouldn't know that the Government keeps a file full of of potential constituency bribes for individual MPs. Eh, what..? She speaks well, in the way that confident, assertive, impeccably educated Oxbridge types often do. They can sound convincing for that alone. Really, she's just another political reporter, hanging around with a bad crowd. And her leanings are broadly Conservative. In much the same way as , for example, Nick Robinson, . Except he barely bothers to try to conceal it. Edited February 1, 2019 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, beefybake said: Eh, what..? She speaks well, in the way that impeccably educated Oxbridge types often do. They often sound convincing for that reason alone. Really, she's just another political reporter, hanging around with a bad crowd. And her leanings are broadly Conservative. In much the same way as , for example, Nick Robinson, . Except he barely bothers to try to conceal it. For what it's worth she went to Edinburgh University and started work in local radio in Glasgow. I don't see the Tory bias, or any in particular. If you try to be professionally neutral you get attacked for bias from both sides. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: For what it's worth she went to Edinburgh University and started work in local radio in Glasgow. I don't see the Tory bias, or any in particular. If you try to be professionally neutral you get attacked for bias from both sides. So? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 The EU have consistently said that they would only agree to an extension of Article 50 if there was a material change in circumstances; this was widely seen as meaning a second referendum or a General Election. It is one of the few things that I thought they might compromise on. I really hope they don’t. If they get approach for a extension just to give the Tories another 3 months I really hope they say “get to f**k” and trigger a No Deal/revocation scenario. Sadly I don’t think they will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So? Not an Oxbridge type then presumably was the point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, The OP said: Not an Oxbridge type then presumably was the point. You don’t need to be educated at Oxbridge to be an Oxbridge type. Maybe she’s an Oxbridge wannabe. Doesn’t stop her from being a right wing c**t just like her Scottish counterpart who I went to school with.* * I say this to make the point that even common people like Brian Taylor can become right wing c***s. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: If they get approach for a extension just to give the Tories another 3 months I really hope they say “get to f**k” and trigger a No Deal/revocation scenario. Really? There's no chance of a majority for revoking it so you're hoping for the thing you say will never happen? And giving the EU a choice of making a hard border happen in Ireland or customs checks between Eire and the EU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Really? There's no chance of a majority for revoking it so you're hoping for the thing you say will never happen? And giving the EU a choice of making a hard border happen in Ireland or customs checks between Eire and the EU. There’s also no majority for No Deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: There’s also no majority for No Deal. All that No Deal needs is a failure for the Commons to come up with a majority for something else. Which from last Tuesday's debacle looks increasingly likely. Unless they agree to a GE to postpone things and reshuffle the cards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: All that No Deal needs is a failure for the Commons to come up with a majority for something else. Which from last Tuesday's debacle looks increasingly likely. Unless they agree to a GE to postpone things and reshuffle the cards. Deflection. You said there was no majority for revocation, you’re probably right. I said there was no majority for No Deal; support for Spelman-Dromey showed that. If MPs are given a stark choice by the EU refusing an extension I think they will go for revocation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Deflection. You said there was no majority for revocation, you’re probably right. I said there was no majority for No Deal; support for Spelman-Dromey showed that. If MPs are given a stark choice by the EU refusing an extension I think they will go for revocation. They've already voted for No Deal as it was in the Act that allowed A50 to be declared. Unless they come up with an alternative and constitutional magic to force the Government to make new legislation, No Deal will happen with without anyone lifting a finger. Most likely thing is the EU making enough of a concession to allow the DUP and enough paid off Labour MPs to counter the hard core Brexiteers and Remainers in the Tory party to pass May's deal 2.whatever. Edited February 1, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 All that No Deal needs is a failure for the Commons to come up with a majority for something else. Which from last Tuesday's debacle looks increasingly likely. Unless they agree to a GE to postpone things and reshuffle the cards.Do you really think that when push comes to shove that other than the off-the-scale hardliners that any MP wants to be a handmaiden to utter mayhem ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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