sureiknow Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Granny Danger said: She’s not yet put her deal for a 3rd time and there’s already talk about her doing it for a 4th time! The sooner Scotland’s out of this shambles of a union the better. Why should a possible leave vote for Scottish Independence be respected if this EU leave vote is not? No reason why it should be. Although i still believe we will be leaving the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Seething It would be tremendously ironic, given that headline and that particular shit rag's hostility to the EU, if the EU rejected an extension and we did leave on the 29th March all thanks to the unelected bureaucrats of Brussels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, I'm Brian said: It would be tremendously ironic, given that headline and that particular shit rag's hostility to the EU, if the EU rejected an extension and we did leave on the 29th March all thanks to the unelected bureaucrats of Brussels Except it won’t be bureaucrats who decide whether or not to agree to an extension. I am almost at the stage of hoping that the EU reject an extension then the rational being in me takes over and realises that it would be the most vulnerable that would suffer. It always is when the politicians f**k something up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 We are screwed if we leave Europe. Why can’t we have another referendum?Because it's like this. A very stupid woman with an even more stupid idea gets to childishly stamp her feet again and again until she is eventually able to throw a six on her dice.The rest of us, being adults, only ever get one throw of the dice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Seething The headline is spot on. The content, as usual, xenophobic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: That horrific cow Foster was just on TV and there's no doubt that the tone of her language has changed. All of them are now desperately searching for semantics and nuances that will justify their about turn and acceptance of May's deal. The best way to find out what Ulster Unionists are up to is to read Belfast Unionist newspapers to find out what the DUP are telling their own supporters and avoid the filter of misunderstanding and at times "Mrs Bunfield" stereotype levels of outright prejudice that the information has to pass through with a London based media outlet: https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/brexit-dup-will-not-sell-its-soul-for-deal-that-threatens-union-1-8849797 ... But while the DUP’s Jim Shannon said he and his fellow MPs wanted to support “the right deal”, he told the News Letter: “We will not sell our soul for a deal that threatens the Union.” ... The DUP has stated that any changes to the backstop must be made “at treaty level”. When asked yesterday if the PM’s deal was now effectively dead, Mr Shannon replied: “We will have to wait and see what happens. ... “It is clear what we want. We need a legally binding time-limited backstop. The government knows that is what they have to deliver and it is up to them to go back and get that. “Our priority is preservation of the Union; that Northern Ireland is treated the same as England, Scotland and Wales. That is the critical factor in all of this for us.” ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 May has said dozens and dozens of times that we will leave on 29 March but now we won’t yet hardly anyone in the MSM is referring to the absolute humiliation of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 From German paper Die Seit. Who said the Germans don't do humour? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 No, we were supposed to go into meltdown the minute the vote came in, the wobble in the markets reflected this, as it stands, I don't think Brexit will be as bad as portrayed, I'm actually more worried about the rejection of democracy over short term pain, time to suck it and see is where I'm at at the moment.Oh yeah, I forgot about the pound down about 11% since the vote (probably more now after yesterday), the BoE pumping QE probably saved us from the worst of it but, yeah, this pretty much as predicted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) Beyond that there is a death of a thousand cuts as car plants close (first Swindon and now Sunderland seems to be winding down) and financial services companies relocate, etc. It doesn't all happen simultaneously. Edited March 15, 2019 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Gina Miller says the time to hold a second referendum is when all other options have been exhausted. I don’t know how this takes into account May’s strategy of just postponing Brexit and holding the same vote again and again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 hours ago, sureiknow said: Why should a possible leave vote for Scottish Independence be respected if this EU leave vote is not? Who wouldn't respect it and why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Baxter Parp said: 8 hours ago, ayrmad said: No, we were supposed to go into meltdown the minute the vote came in, the wobble in the markets reflected this, as it stands, I don't think Brexit will be as bad as portrayed, I'm actually more worried about the rejection of democracy over short term pain, time to suck it and see is where I'm at at the moment. Oh yeah, I forgot about the pound down about 11% since the vote (probably more now after yesterday), the BoE pumping QE probably saved us from the worst of it but, yeah, this pretty much as predicted. Away and look at historical trends, I'm sure you'll notice that it's just a fall like loads of others and not in the same stratosphere as the worst ones, the long term trend is downward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: Gina Miller says the time to hold a second referendum is when all other options have been exhausted. I don’t know how this takes into account May’s strategy of just postponing Brexit and holding the same vote again and again. There is a good chance it will go through on Tuesday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said: Who wouldn't respect it and why? Your forensic questioning really adds a lot to these threads. I assume you are unable to think in terms of cause and effect. Previously no one really thought about what would happen beyond a Yes vote. Now it's clear that Westminster would make separation as difficult as possible whilst using all their media assets and Scottish unionists to campaign for a second referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Away and look at historical trends, I'm sure you'll notice that it's just a fall like loads of others and not in the same stratosphere as the worst ones, the long term trend is downward.No, we had the nigh-on the largest growth in Western Europe before the vote, now we're third bottom. It's not a fall like loads of others, it's been going on for three years now, with the odd blip up when it looks like a deal has been reached. Which quickly disappears when it turns out to be a mirage. Apart from jobs, the predictions were more or less bang on. God knows what a no deal exit would look like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said: 7 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Away and look at historical trends, I'm sure you'll notice that it's just a fall like loads of others and not in the same stratosphere as the worst ones, the long term trend is downward. No, we had the nigh-on the largest growth in Western Europe before the vote, now we're third bottom. It's not a fall like loads of others, it's been going on for three years now, with the odd blip up when it looks like a deal has been reached. Which quickly disappears when it turns out to be a mirage. Apart from jobs, the predictions were more or less bang on. God knows what a no deal exit would look like. When you're coming from f**k all rises always appear larger, we had the largest growth due to every other mob getting their shit together much quicker than ourselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 When you're coming from f**k all rises always appear larger, we had the largest growth due to every other mob getting their shit together much quicker than ourselves.Sure, we had the slowest recovery from a recession in history because of the Tories austerity policies but we were finally getting decent figures before the vote and now we're back down to 1.2% or so. Even Portugal is doing better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Gina Miller says the time to hold a second referendum is when all other options have been exhausted. I don’t know how this takes into account May’s strategy of just postponing Brexit and holding the same vote again and again. Wid until it fell off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Detournement said: Your forensic questioning really adds a lot to these threads. I assume you are unable to think in terms of cause and effect. Previously no one really thought about what would happen beyond a Yes vote. Now it's clear that Westminster would make separation as difficult as possible whilst using all their media assets and Scottish unionists to campaign for a second referendum. Thanks for the compliment, it's appreciated. I'm not sure why you think Westminster being difficult would make people who voted for independence change their mind. If anything I'd suggest it would have the opposite effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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