ayrmad Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, sparky88 said: All Leave need is another xenophobic dishonest campaign. Remain dealt in facts and lost. Two years of more facts doesn't necessarily mean Remain wins. No they didn't, I'm still waiting for the meltdown that was to immediately follow a leave vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, ayrmad said: No they didn't, I'm still waiting for the meltdown that was to immediately follow a leave vote. You mean like the House of Commons discussing Brexit to the exclusion of everything else. Yes, I wonder when that is going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, sparky88 said: All Leave need is another xenophobic dishonest campaign. Remain dealt in facts and lost. Two years of more facts doesn't necessarily mean Remain wins. The opinion polls and their trajectory have been perfectly clear. Leave will no doubt be disgustingly dishonest but there are fewer gullibles out there. 2 minutes ago, ayrmad said: No they didn't, I'm still waiting for the meltdown that was to immediately follow a leave vote. There was never going to be a meltdown after the vote. Only fools believed otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Do you think there would be a majority in the Commons to revoke article 50? I doubt European countries concerned for their citizens living here would want to risk that. I'm not even sure if there's a mechanism for that to be put to the house, May certainly wouldn't. There will be an extension or hard brexit imo. Yes, if the only other option was a Hard Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, ayrmad said: No they didn't, I'm still waiting for the meltdown that was to immediately follow a leave vote. You're living in it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 As far as I can see there are only five Tory Remainers who haven't voted for May's deal. Guto Bebb. Jo Johnson. Dominic Grieve. Justine Greening. Phillip Lee. So if every Tory who voted for the Deal on Tuesday plus the Tory Brexiter rebels plus the DUP votes for the Deal next week it passes even without the three Labour rebels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The problem for Theresa May is that the DUP care much more about NI's place in the Union than they do about Brexit and the back stop is potentially horrendous for Ulster Unionism. My guess is it gets voted down again, the EU attach very awkward conditions to an extension aimed at an eventual reversal of the Leave vote that May will reluctantly accept, which will split her party and lead to a general election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Broken Government. Barclay concluded the debate on behalf of May. https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1106272746210758658 https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1106281467267682305 Edited March 14, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Muscle flexing after Rudd and co rebelled yesterday. Edited March 14, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 So six Labour MPs effectively saved a Tory PM who was under enormous pressure. I’m sure the people who voted for them will be absolutely delighted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 At least Flint and Barron promised to vote against a No Deal in their election literature. Ronnie Campbell is the king of Lexit. Hoey is mental. Stringer and Mann are complete bampots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 How about cancelling Brexit and placing a High Court injunction upon it that stops people from ever mentioning it again? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 So we're down to the end game now. It's either 'yes' to May's deal at the 3rd attempt, or crawling back to the EU for a long extension. It's now pretty much guaranteed that May's cobbled together crap will pass next week. The extremists are terrified that a long extension means no Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Bob Mahelp said: So we're down to the end game now. It's either 'yes' to May's deal at the 3rd attempt, or crawling back to the EU for a long extension. It's now pretty much guaranteed that May's cobbled together crap will pass next week. The extremists are terrified that a long extension means no Brexit. If it passes, and it might, it will be because some Labour members take it over the line. Even if most of the extremists support May some will hold out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bob Mahelp said: So we're down to the end game now. It's either 'yes' to May's deal at the 3rd attempt, or crawling back to the EU for a long extension. It's now pretty much guaranteed that May's cobbled together crap will pass next week. The extremists are terrified that a long extension means no Brexit. ^ This. Somehow you can see, and sense it's going to go that way. Is the useless cow going to hailed as some kind of a hero at the end of all this? Edited March 14, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: So we're down to the end game now. It's either 'yes' to May's deal at the 3rd attempt, or crawling back to the EU for a long extension. It's now pretty much guaranteed that May's cobbled together crap will pass next week. The extremists are terrified that a long extension means no Brexit. I don't see how it can pass unless the DUP accept N.Ireland being treated differently from the rUK. That's always been the sticking block and I don't see it changing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Colkitto said: I don't see how it can pass unless the DUP accept N.Ireland being treated differently from the rUK. That's always been the sticking block and I don't see it changing That horrific cow Foster was just on TV and there's no doubt that the tone of her language has changed. All of them are now desperately searching for semantics and nuances that will justify their about turn and acceptance of May's deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: ^ This. Somehow you can see, and sense it's going to go that way. Is the useless cow going to hailed by some kind of hero at the end of all this? Yeah I can see that happening. But the funny thing is that the Tories will still dump her as soon as they can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintax Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Im sticking to May's deal being defeated again and again. It isn't just the backstop issue that is causing so many MP's to vote against it. There is a lot in it that MP's on all sides will not vote for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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