Pet Jeden Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, AUFC90 said: 2 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: You want Indyref2? And you expect the result to be honoured if it's a Yes? Well it was honoured when it was a no. Ahh. But hat was way back in 2014 - before the middle classes lost their shit and decided referendums didn't need to be honoured if the uneducated plebs didn't properly understand their place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Chapelhall chap said: Just read this post so apologies if it has been commented on . The guy you refer to , Brendan O'Neil., writes for Spiked ( funded by subscribers he claims) . He approaches this from (he says) a left wing /anti corporatist EU/ who thinks the "working class" have been shafted by the Neo Liberal consensus. He is a contrarian who also approaches political view from a Libertarian/free speech/anti identity political ideas. He is certainly a hard Brexit one from the early days and is now in an echo chamber leading to "Clean Brexit" . He was obviously getting really irked and lost the plot today by suggesting there should be riots. Anyone who quotes the levellers from the 17th century as an inspiration for riots on the streets, is forgetting how they were crushed by the state in those days. Many of his views on the leave side were of course not applicable to his negative views on the Yes campaign. Like a lot of Brexiteers he supports "Independence" from the EU but loves the precious UK union That is undoubtedly contradictory. As are Scottish Nationalists being against a union with England but for a Union with the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I, for one, can’t wait for the Brexit Party to announce their “freedom of movement for Africans to balance out the unfairness of EU immigration rules” policy.What’s that? They won’t? And to suggest anything of the sort is, at absolute best, extremely disingenuous? That’s a pity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 It was on the side of a bus, I'm sure. "Self Esteem, more brown people, and less Poles. Let's take back control." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I've just realised something. Every time I read "take back control" I've read it in this style: Hand movements and everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: That is undoubtedly contradictory. As are Scottish Nationalists being against a union with England but for a Union with the EU. Wow, the penny has actually dropped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I've just realised something. Every time I read "take back control" I've read it in this style: Hand movements and everything. Failed UKIP Leader candidate, right there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Chapelhall chap said: Just read this post so apologies if it has been commented on . The guy you refer to , Brendan O'Neil., writes for Spiked ( funded by subscribers he claims) . He approaches this from (he says) a left wing /anti corporatist EU/ who thinks the "working class" have been shafted by the Neo Liberal consensus. He is a contrarian who also approaches political view from a Libertarian/free speech/anti identity political ideas. He is certainly a hard Brexit one from the early days and is now in an echo chamber leading to "Clean Brexit" . He was obviously getting really irked and lost the plot today by suggesting there should be riots. Anyone who quotes the levellers from the 17th century as an inspiration for riots on the streets, is forgetting how they were crushed by the state in those days. Many of his views on the leave side were of course not applicable to his negative views on the Yes campaign. Like a lot of Brexiteers he supports "Independence" from the EU but loves the precious UK union Nobody should be encouraging disorder. But, to be consistent, are you equally uncomfortable with Irish politicians and the UK remain establishment constantly suggesting that IRA terrorism is the inevitable result of Brexit? And the Civil Service suggesting that there will be shortages that could lead to civil disorder? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Edited September 27, 2019 by Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Failed UKIP Leader candidate, right there. He was too pragmatic and didn't know how to reach the scum bag element. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Wow, the penny has actually dropped. Now you're confused. Night, Johnboy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chapelhall chap said: The guy you refer to , Brendan O'Neil., writes for Spiked ( funded by subscribers he claims) . Funded by the American right wing Charles Koch Foundation and Cato Institute. Edited September 27, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Now you're confused. Night, Johnboy. Trying to make sense of your posts would confuse anyone. I'm assuming you're having some difficulty in accepting that many Scots would prefer to remain a part of Europe than continue to be associated with Boris's Britain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Absolutely hated Miami, shitehole of a place. We’ve had some great experiences in small towns, in places like Nashville (the wee towns around it) and outside Austin in Round Rock etc. Miami's like Edinburgh; better place to live than to visit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Brendan O'Neill is paid just to shit out contrarian takes on whatever the obvious consensus on an issue is. And he has a stupid head although I don't think that factors in to his paycheck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Edited September 28, 2019 by The OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Pet Jeden said: That is undoubtedly contradictory. As are Scottish Nationalists being against a union with England but for a Union with the EU. This is laughable pish. The two "unions" are very different in nature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Pet Jeden said: That is undoubtedly contradictory. As are Scottish Nationalists being against a union with England but for a Union with the EU. A supranational Union of multiple independent nation-states being the exact same thing as a Union with other regions to form one nation-state, obviously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Pet Jeden said: Ahh. But hat was way back in 2014 - before the middle classes lost their shit and decided referendums didn't need to be honoured if the uneducated plebs didn't properly understand their place. What is to be honoured? A throwing the baby out with the bathwater hard Brexit or a free movement customs union type Brexit? That is the problem with trying to deliver on the Brexit referendum. The Scottish referendum was a straight Yes/No, no ambiguity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 6 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: This is laughable pish. The two "unions" are very different in nature. Set aside the Crown - which SNP claimed was going to remain largely unaffected. Then take into account that the EU’s direction of travel is from the simple 6 nation 1952 European Coal and Steel Community, towards a unified EU superstate with less and less ability to veto - and I accept that is a perfectly valid case for such a superstate - then, no, the two unions are not very different. Except that tiny Scotland’s ability to influence becomes even tinier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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