welshbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, kirkyblue2 said: Bit difficult for remain to win if that’s not an option. Could be May’s deal or no deal, wouldn’t that be funny? It's getting confusing about who can make decisions, Government or the Commons. I could see your one happening though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: There's no evidence Remain would win either! Look at the polls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: Look at the polls. Remain were ahead in the polls before the 2016 campaign started. Meant heehaw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, kirkyblue2 said: Bit difficult for remain to win if that’s not an option. Could be May’s deal or no deal, wouldn’t that be funny? It's getting confusing about who can make decisions, Government or the Commons. I could see your one happening though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Detournement said: Remain were ahead in the polls before the 2016 campaign started. Meant heehaw. It isn't 2016. And the 2019 campaign has been going for some time now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: It isn't 2016. And the 2019 campaign has been going for some time now. I feel that the leave voters will only be emboldened by the thought democracy has been denied if there is a second referendum. The leave vote will be extremely difficult to change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: I feel that the leave voters will only be emboldened by the thought democracy has been denied if there is a second referendum. The leave vote will be extremely difficult to change. The polls say differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: I feel that the leave voters will only be emboldened by the thought democracy has been denied if there is a second referendum. The leave vote will be extremely difficult to change. Why would the second referendum be any less democratic than the first? Edited March 10, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: Why would the second referendum be any less democratic from the first? There will be some voters who were denied a vote last time because of their age. I never said that it was undemocratic. The perception from the leave voters is that it would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: I never said that it was undemocratic. The perception from the leave voters is that it would be. Are you saying leave voters are thick? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Remain were ahead in the polls before the 2016 campaign started. Meant heehaw.Indeed, but since then only someone living in a cave on Rockall would be unaware of the lies, duplicity, wild promises of the Leave campaign never mind Cambridge Analytica, Arron Banks, the mounting job losses and shambolic political attempts at leaving the EU.In other words a lot has altered since 2016. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Indeed, but since then only someone living in a cave on Rockall would be unaware of the lies, duplicity, wild promises of the Leave campaign never mind Cambridge Analytica, Arron Banks, the mounting job losses and shambolic political attempts at leaving the EU. In other words a lot has altered since 2016. I hope the SNP have a secret Internet Research Agency base on St Kilda by now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: Are you saying leave voters are thick? And where did I say that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: And where did I say that? 32 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: I never said that it was undemocratic. The perception from the leave voters is that it would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Internet Research Agency The obvious acronym for this might not be a vote winner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: And where did I say that? Are you saying they're not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, trainspotter said: The obvious acronym for this might not be a vote winner. Might be handy as a back up, strange and dangerous times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Detournement said: Opinion polls are in a similar place to where they were in the lead up to the referendum. They don't count for much right now as everything changes once campaigning starts and "Tell Them Again" would be a strong position for leave. 1 hour ago, Detournement said: Remain were ahead in the polls before the 2016 campaign started. Meant heehaw. This is a common misconception. The bookies had remain as favourites, but that was because of the belief that polls tend to swing back towards the status quo at the 11th hour. If you look at the actual opinion polls they were very 50-50 if not leaning towards leave from mid-May right up until the break in campaigning when Jo Cox was murdered, after the campaigning resumed remain took a slender lead for the rest of the campaign right enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: Are you saying they're not? And where did I say that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: And where did I say that? Fair enough, although I would say some of them are deluded by ideology and prejudice, and not necessarily thick in a strict sense, but we basically agree. Edited March 10, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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