Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, jamieson87 said: This is an excellent read - How the UK lost Brexit battle The course of Brexit was set in the hours and days after the 2016 referendum. https://www.politico.eu/article/how-uk-lost-brexit-eu-negotiation/ An excellent article. On of the best I've read in summing up why we are where we are. Tory incompetence and arrogance piled on more Tory incompetence and arrogance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Principal Flutie said: The SNP are against Brexit. So they're not going to vote for Brexit in any form. This really shouldn't be difficult and it's not "disappointing". Nicola disagrees. https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1111011486426644480 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 24 hours until Independence Day, lads. How are you all celebrating? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: 24 hours until Independence Day, lads. How are you all celebrating? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: I see Pete Wishart and Angus McNeil rebelled on the second referendum vote. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2019/mar/27/how-did-your-mp-vote-in-the-indicative-votes#table Two of the old timers that were MPs before being an SNP MP was in fashion. They're independence fundamentalists rather than being the pragmatic yes types who populate the 2015 intake. They're afraid a second referendum would call into question the integrity of an independence yes vote. 53 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Raaaaab suggesting we can go back to the EU and get more concessionnon the WA. The fucking moron is playing to the Sun-reading gallery with this pish. He's already playing to the grass roots Tory membership for the leadership ballot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 It seems Labour think there's a GE imminent and are starting their campaign, Strange timing to pick a battle with the SNP otherwise. https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1111196735613874176 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It seems Labour think there's a GE imminent and are starting their campaign, Strange timing to pick a battle with the SNP otherwise. https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1111196735613874176 Dunno, they wheel that out every year don't they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 40 years ago. Would be a lot better for him if Labour's incompetence under Corbyn's leadership couldn't be shown again and again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, Donathan said: They're afraid a second referendum would call into question the integrity of an independence yes vote. Why are you still posting this rubbish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 MV3 coming tomorrow. Gotta think they’re getting it through then... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The chairman of the Labour Party was one of those to break the whip in last night’s voting! Maybe Corbyn could show some leadership by binning him and the other shadow cabinet dissenters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Londonwell said: MV3 coming tomorrow. Gotta think they’re getting it through then... Labour rebels? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Donathan said: Labour rebels? With the DUP steadfast, you would have to think so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Donathan said: Labour rebels? Who will help May get her deal through then see the installation of a Brexit hardliner to replace her. Their arses would be right out the window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, Londonwell said: With the DUP steadfast, you would have to think so. Either that or May is pushing ahead with it because she knows she's played her last card now, anyone that's ever going to vote for the deal will vote for it now. If it fails again her only recourse to avoid no deal will be to consider a softer option or a confirmatory referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: Who will help May get her deal through then see the installation of a Brexit hardliner to replace her. Their arses would be right out the window. Any Labour MP who rebels or even abstains to facilitate the deal does so in full knowledge that the ERG will seize control of the next phase of negotiations if MV3 goes through. Voting against MV3 is a complete must at this point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 If you're trying to win over potentially disillusioned younger Yes voters then the best attack line is to focus on something which happened 40 years ago and was even a stretch to claim at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I can’t still can’t make the parliamentary numbers work for May’s deal. If the vote goes ahead it’s going to be very interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Donathan said: Any Labour MP who rebels or even abstains to facilitate the deal does so in full knowledge that the ERG will seize control of the next phase of negotiations if MV3 goes through. Voting against MV3 is a complete must at this point. 3 minutes ago, Londonwell said: I can’t still can’t make the parliamentary numbers work for May’s deal. If the vote goes ahead it’s going to be very interesting. Her excuse for calling a GE? Like Londonwell I don’t see the numbers adding up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Donathan said: Any Labour MP who rebels or even abstains to facilitate the deal does so in full knowledge that the ERG will seize control of the next phase of negotiations if MV3 goes through. Voting against MV3 is a complete must at this point. If by some miracle it passes, May resigns and the Brexiteers take over, there will be a General Election within months. The ERG are a minority even in their own party, they wouldn't get anything passed in the house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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