Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[Bishop Briggs]

10 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

With pre-existing conditions and no reciprocal health care deal, insurance costs would be prohibitive. My current provider just point blank refused. I'll be going anyway, just uninsured. 

Have you tried Liverpool Victoria?

They offer much cheaper rates for those pre-existing conditions, e.g. cancers, than their competitors.

The premiums for two family members, one with a life threatening illness, were surprisingly cheap.

Worth a try.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

18 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

....as long as you are young and fit with no health concerns.

Or have deep pockets.

People don't understand this. For 50 years we could go anywhere in the EU knowing that we had reciprocal health insurance....if the worst came to the worst, you had a safety net. 

Now that safety net is no longer there. A week in Spain becomes the same as week in the USA....you'll have to cough up for individual insurance. 

Anything we do that has a connection with the EU...travel, food, cars, flowers, anything....will cost more. 

[ICTJohnboy]

6 hours ago, welshbairn said:

I did try to think of a charity that you would hate and I would like, but I gave up. This isn't strictly a charity but a worthy cause in my book, willing to change it if anyone objects. @NotThePars @ICTJohnboy .

https://donateaticket.com/donate/clachnacuddin-fc/

 

Parliament could always throw this "deal" out, but I will concede that's unlikely.

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[welshbairn]

Well done chaps, prompt payments as expected. If the Walloons or Maltese, or Westminster block the treaty, I'll naturally contribute to the charities of your choice.

@ICTJohnboy @MixuFruit @NotThePars

[John Lambies Doos]

Sky News starting to scrutinise the deal. EU commission have released their docs and basically shows an EU win. UK economy to shrink by 4% as opposed to 6% if No deal... So still a lot worse off than staying in EU.
EU docs are quite stark in terms of UK losses, obviously to prevent others leaving.

[strichener]

11 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

People don't understand this. For 50 years we could go anywhere in the EU knowing that we had reciprocal health insurance....if the worst came to the worst, you had a safety net. 

Now that safety net is no longer there. A week in Spain becomes the same as week in the USA....you'll have to cough up for individual insurance. 

Anything we do that has a connection with the EU...travel, food, cars, flowers, anything....will cost more. 

We paid out 1/2 billion pounds for UK pensioners loving abroad through reciprocal healthcare.  These people would need to find private healthcare or pay for their own treatment if there is no agreement on ehic.

[Bishop Briggs]

Macron is very quiet! 

[Bishop Briggs]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55435930

Laura Kuenssberg

"It is a massive achievement for both sides that they have done such a huge trade deal on the timetable that was said to be impossible at the start.

Whatever your personal view, there's a sense of vindication in the camp of those who campaigned to leave the EU - they got a free trade deal with zero quotas and zero tariffs (although there may be some before you scream) but the UK will not be under European law."

 

[John Lambies Doos]

So will we get an independence Day holiday on 23rd June next year?

[Jacksgranda]

8 minutes ago, strichener said:

We paid out 1/2 billion pounds for UK pensioners loving abroad through reciprocal healthcare.  These people would need to find private healthcare or pay for their own treatment if there is no agreement on ehic.

STD clinics obviously charging a fortune...

[Bishop Briggs]

5 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

is he not isolating with covid?

Macron has been doing meetings on Zoom whilst isolating.  He also has phones and computer to brief staff and journalists in his views in the deal.

Barnier would have briefed him on the details, especially with regard to fishing that mattered so much to France.

 So where's Macron's response? Is he very ill or just hiding from the media?

Edited December 24, 2020 by Bishop Briggs

[Baxter Parp]

You should send that to the media, BP. There's been absolutely nothing on TV or social media about trucks being lined up on the runway at Manston.

f**k off, Bendan.

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55435930

Laura Kuenssberg

"It is a massive achievement for both sides that they have done such a huge trade deal on the timetable that was said to be impossible at the start.

Whatever your personal view, there's a sense of vindication in the camp of those who campaigned to leave the EU - they got a free trade deal with zero quotas and zero tariffs (although there may be some before you scream) but the UK will not be under European law."

 

Not under EU law but if we break any EU laws to the detriment of the EU project they can slap us with huge tarriffs.

Which is probably more power than the actual European courts had. Plenty of EU countries have outright ignored court rulings with zero consequences. Remember when the EU ruled prisoners should have the vote? A decade of dragging their feet the UK let the smallest possible amount of prisoners vote and told the court to gtf.

[git-intae-thum]

Hugely increased travel insurance costs and the resultant restriction on foreign tracel will be born most by the age demographic that most consistently voted for this crock of shite. It is actually quite funny in a way.

Even better when the moron brexiteer element suddenly realise that the police adult warning they got for possessing a bit of blow 5 years ago means no ETIAs waiver for them and a very expensive full visa application with every chance of rejection.

No more trips to Salou for them and henceforth they are stuck on this island. Quite glorious. 

[Bishop Briggs]

2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

Not under EU law but if we break any EU laws to the detriment of the EU project they can slap us with huge tarriffs.

Which is probably more power than the actual European courts had. Plenty of EU countries have outright ignored court rulings with zero consequences. Remember when the EU ruled prisoners should have the vote? A decade of dragging their feet the UK let the smallest possible amount of prisoners vote and told the court to gtf.

Are you sure about that? How do you define the "EU Project". It's irrelevant to the deal anyway.

The European Court of Justice will have no role. Trade and any imposition of tariffs will be subject to international law, not EU law.

[NotThePars]

I give it 48 hours max before Bishop Briggs disappears off this thread again for another six months when the full reality of the deal starts to be absorbed

[Bishop Briggs]

Just now, git-intae-thum said:

Hugely increased travel insurance costs and the resultant restriction on foreign tracel will be born most by the age demographic that most consistently voted for this crock of shite. It is actually quite funny in a way.

Even better when the moron brexiteer element suddenly realise that the police adult warning they got for possessing a bit of blow 5 years ago means no ETIAs waiver for them and a very expensive full visa application with every chance of rejection.

No more trips to Salou for them and henceforth they are stuck on this island. Quite glorious. 

That's nonsense. Comprehensive travel insurance has been remarkably cheap and very few people use the EHIC.

I've got several family members with very serious medical conditions. They have been able to get cheap cover easily.

In recent months, TUI have been offering very cheap Covid cover to the most vulnerable customers.

[John Lambies Doos]

I give it 48 hours max before Bishop Briggs disappears off this thread again for another six months when the full reality of the deal starts to be absorbed

This...Happy Christmas mate!

[John Lambies Doos]

That's nonsense. Comprehensive travel insurance has been remarkably cheap and very few people use the EHIC.
I've got several family members with very serious medical conditions. They have been able to get cheap cover easily.
In recent months, TUI have been offering very cheap Covid cover to the most vulnerable customers.

What's the relevance of 'few people use the EHIC'? Not sure that's actually the point

[Bishop Briggs]

6 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

I give it 48 hours max before Bishop Briggs disappears off this thread again for another six months when the full reality of the deal starts to be absorbed

There was no point in arguing with the idiots who said that the EU would not agree to a free trade deal.

The schadenfreude of the Remainers' seethe is absolutely glorious. 

I look forward to the SNP voting against the trade deal next week.