welshbairn Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 58 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Personally I think the Brexit strategy was this: We leave Other countries leave The EU falls apart Since stage 2 hasn't happened, they are stalling for time and saying "What do we do now?" Probably sending letters to Albania, Serbia, Montenegro and wherever saying "If you want to join the EU, we will support your bid 100%, provided you then promise to leave." I think you're giving them too much credit. Boris and his chums thought it would raise their profile with the right of the Tory party and no way were the British public actually idiotic enough to vote leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 What an absolute shambles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Gaz said: What an absolute shambles I think people just thought us leaving the EU was the political version of picking your football up and going home. "let's make Britain great again" "how much to you manufacture" "F**k all, oh!" Edited September 6, 2017 by zidane's child 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Fullerene said: Personally I think the Brexit strategy was this: We leave Other countries leave The EU falls apart Since stage 2 hasn't happened, they are stalling for time and saying "What do we do now?" Probably sending letters to Albania, Serbia, Montenegro and wherever saying "If you want to join the EU, we will support your bid 100%, provided you then promise to leave." They're now trying to convince themselves that stage 2 is right around the corner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 They're now trying to convince themselves that stage 2 is right around the corner. Couldn't we just all agree to stay in the EU until Turkey joins 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The EU have said that trade discussions will not start until there is agreement on three key areas including the 'divorce bill'. Davis is saying discussion on this may not be completed until 2019. Can anyone else see a problem with this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 10 hours ago, welshbairn said: I think you're giving them too much credit. Boris and his chums thought it would raise their profile with the right of the Tory party and no way were the British public actually idiotic enough to vote leave. I definitely agree with this. Boris was banking on remaining the outspoken champion of the underdog, and likely hoping that the EU could be the populist bete noire for decades to come. I reckon senior UK government figures are shifting themselves at the prospect of losing the EU as a scapegoat for their own inaction/f**k ups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 The EU have said that trade discussions will not start until there is agreement on three key areas including the 'divorce bill'. Davis is saying discussion on this may not be completed until 2019. Can anyone else see a problem with this? Would be good if it went past term of this awful tory government 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 9 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Couldn't we just all agree to stay in the EU until Turkey joins Turkeys voting for an early membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Memories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Memories Those three will have enough in the bank to make sure none of this shambles will affect them.The plebs will pay a heavier price though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Nothing like a bit of Tory optimism! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Sir Keir Starmer is doing a great job of picking the EU Withdrawl Bill apart. Edited September 7, 2017 by zidane's child 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, zidane's child said: Sir Keir Starmer is doing a great job of picking the EU Withdrawl Bill apart. It may sound cliched, but we really need a few Tories who will put country before party. No doubt there are quite a few who see the folly of the whole thing. On the other hand are there any pro-Brexiteer Labour MPs who are likely to vote with the government? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 It may sound cliched, but we really need a few Tories who will put country before party. No doubt there are quite a few who see the folly of the whole thing. On the other hand are there any pro-Brexiteer Labour MPs who are likely to vote with the government? Jmo2 is the man for the answer here GD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Sir Keir Starmer is doing a great job of picking the EU Withdrawl Bill apart. As did Kenneth Clarke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 This 2 yr countdown since article 50 results in what exactly? A plan to leave, actually left. Honestly small bit confused of its relevance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-theresa-may-powers-grab-plans-parliamentary-system-fix-a7935276.html?cmpid=facebook-post Theresa May's plan to gain sweeping new powers ahead of Brexit revealed Exclusive: Anger over Prime Minister's attempt to pack a crucial Commons committee with Tory MPs, in a vote next week – in defiance of Parliament’s rules Jeezo, surely she won't get away with this. Desperate stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Baxter Parp said: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-theresa-may-powers-grab-plans-parliamentary-system-fix-a7935276.html?cmpid=facebook-post Theresa May's plan to gain sweeping new powers ahead of Brexit revealed Exclusive: Anger over Prime Minister's attempt to pack a crucial Commons committee with Tory MPs, in a vote next week – in defiance of Parliament’s rules Jeezo, surely she won't get away with this. Desperate stuff. Sky website explains this better. http://news.sky.com/story/labour-accuses-govt-of-trying-to-rig-parliament-with-committee-changes-11025027 The motion put forward proposes changing parliamentary rules so that "where a committee has an odd number of members, the Government shall have a majority". This has major significance when it comes to the little-known but powerful Committee of Selection. Given Theresa May failed to win an overall majority at the 8 June election, the anticipated make-up of this nine-member committee would be four Conservative MPs, four Labour MPs and one Scottish National Party MP. However, the motion put forward by Ms Leadsom would ensure five MPs on the Committee of Selection would be Conservatives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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