RedRob72 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 He said: “Whenever the government promise there will be no return to the borders of the past, they don’t make it clear there will be no borders. The borders of the past conjures up the idea of British soldiers, checkpoints, queues of cars a mile long.” “We don’t want borders of any description – you can now drive from central Belfast to central Dublin in an hour and a half. You won’t be stopped anywhere. You won’t see a red light and you won’t be stopped by a police officer unless you are speeding.” So, he's saying that the government have promised there will be no "British soldiers, checkpoints, queues of cars a mile long" but they haven't made it clear that there will be no borders, right? Explain how that's "a lever by opportunist nationalists to create apprehension". Just read the first paragraph you have quoted again. His intentions are clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, RedRob72 said: Just read the first paragraph you have quoted again. His intentions are clear. No, you read it without bigotry. I could parse the fucking thing until I'm blue in the face but you'd still claim he was threatening to bomb Buckingham Palace. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Is that exactly what I said Pep? Not that I have friends & family who would consider themselves as part of the PUL community? I grew up with it, I would never deny that. Again I have no interest in religion whatsoever. Was it not you that was tragically boasting about a friends wedding band, as it was basically a sash bash. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 No, you read it without bigotry. I could parse the fucking thing until I'm blue in the face but you'd still claim he was threatening to bomb Buckingham Palace. Bollocks, I give you the quote you asked for and you still contest it.His comments are carefully but clearly designed to create apprehension over a hard border and a return to the past.Then you fire out the old bigotry line, just for good measure well done you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Just now, RedRob72 said: Bollocks, I give you the quote you asked for and you still contest it. His comments are carefully but clearly designed to create apprehension over a hard border and a return to the past. Then you fire out the old bigotry line, just for good measure well done you. He clearly says the government has promised no return to the borders of the past. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 He clearly says the government has promised no return to the borders of the past. Our understanding of English comprehension clearly differs. Doesn't he say 'they don't make it clear', what don't you understand by that uncertainty & doubt. He said: “Whenever the government promise there will be no return to the borders of the past, they don’t make it clear there will be no borders. The borders of the past conjures up the idea of British soldiers, checkpoints, queues of cars a mile long.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Just now, RedRob72 said: Our understanding of English comprehension clearly differs. Doesn't he say 'they don't make it clear', what don't you understand by that uncertainty & doubt. He said: “Whenever the government promise there will be no return to the borders of the past, they don’t make it clear there will be no borders. The borders of the past conjures up the idea of British soldiers, checkpoints, queues of cars a mile long.” Jesus Christ. "they don't make it clear there will be no borders" Note there is no "of the past" there. He means the government have not made it clear that there will be no borders i.e. customs checks, etc. He's not suggesting that the government might bring in the paras. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Jesus Christ. "they don't make it clear there will be no borders" Note there is no "of the past" there. He means the government have not made it clear that there will be no borders i.e. customs checks, etc. He's not suggesting that the government might bring in the paras. Going round in circles now, McGuinness knew exactly what he was saying, designed for effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Going round in circles now, McGuinness knew exactly what he was saying, designed for effect. He's saying the government have promised no return to the bad old days but we don't want any change at all, Unless you're a bigoted clown who's so screwed up he can't read straight, I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Was it not you that was tragically boasting about a friends wedding band, as it was basically a sash bash. How was it a boast you sensitive little soul? Pipe or Flute band, it was their wedding, their choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 How was it a boast you sensitive little soul? Pipe or Flute band, it was their wedding, their choice. Flute band at wedding?????? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 On 01/12/2016 at 18:17, Fullerene said: I don't know what all the fuss is about. Apparently we can have our cake and eat it. Sounds good to me. By the same token, if we can also turn water into wine and straw into gold then we can simply tell the EU to get lost. Sounds straightforward to me. We've already told the EU to get lost......sounds good to me , ha ha ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Flute band at wedding?????? Why not? Have you not heard a fine rendition of 'Here Comes The Bride' to a huge thunderous Lambeg skin Bass, 25 flutes and 10 Drummers!? The mother of the Bride was in tears! (Especially when the Bugles and Cymbals started up) [emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3995754/The-judges-people-week-11-unaccountable-individuals-consider-case-help-thwart-majority-Brexit-Mail-makes-no-apology-revealing-views-links-Europe.html Well.....You can taste the seethe here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 9 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Flute band at wedding?????? Classy-sounding family 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 3 hours ago, mizfit said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3995754/The-judges-people-week-11-unaccountable-individuals-consider-case-help-thwart-majority-Brexit-Mail-makes-no-apology-revealing-views-links-Europe.html Well.....You can taste the seethe here. Not convinced there's seethe at work here. More a case of exposing the hypocrisy of those bringing the court case. I think the court case will fail as Brexit is a foreign policy issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 15 hours ago, mizfit said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3995754/The-judges-people-week-11-unaccountable-individuals-consider-case-help-thwart-majority-Brexit-Mail-makes-no-apology-revealing-views-links-Europe.html Well.....You can taste the seethe here. They've given each judge a "Europhile" rating. How cute. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The Daily Heil should just use the headline "Judges Should Ignore The Law". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Day 1 of the Supreme Court Hearing. The BBC are showing this live over the next few days. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-37976580 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 On 03/12/2016 at 09:19, jupe1407 said: Classy-sounding family The mother of the bride had tears running down the 'Queen's 11 RFC' and 'For God and Ulster' tattoos she has on either cheek. Touching IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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