NotThePars Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 "transgender ideology" lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The idea that we should expose children to transgenderism, and then take for gospel fact the word of any kid who says they are transgender is nonsense based in no science whatsoever. It's ideology and basically the leftist equivalent of teaching Genesis in science class. It's an ideology. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The third leg of Government is the Judiciary whose role is to uphold the Constitution against attacks by Congress or the President. They're doing a fine job. The administration hasn't been able to proffer any rational to explain how banning people returning from holiday, or having passed interviews and checks with 5 or more Government agencies, simply for being born in certain countries, protects America. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) BTW Obama didn't introduce the law that allows the State to determine which bathroom you're allowed to use and presumably State officials empowered to inspect genitalia to determine eligibility. That was North Carolina. Quote "Public agencies [and local boards of education] shall require every multiple occupancy bathroom or changing facility to be designated for and only used by persons based on their biological sex." Obama tried to block it. The schoolkids example is as weak as Clause 28 over here, using something that doesn't happen as an excuse to project your bigotry. Edited March 19, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The third leg of Government is the Judiciary whose role is to uphold the Constitution against attacks by Congress or the President. They're doing a fine job. The administration hasn't been able to proffer any rational to explain how banning people returning from holiday, or having passed interviews and checks with 5 or more Government agencies, simply for being born in certain countries, protects America. Again, the Constitution specifically grants these issues to Congress and the President. When that is the case the courts can't intervene. The Supreme Court has ruled on this subject over and over. These rulings are Constitutionally baffling. I think we can agree that invading Iraq did not make the US safer. But the Constitution gives the power to declare war and the funding of the military to Congress. It makes the President commander in chief of the military. Bush went to Congress and was given an authorization to invade Iraq. Congress funded the military. Bush then ordered an invasion. Do you think it would be Constitutional for some judge at the lowest level in Hawaii to order a halt to the invasion? Of course not. This is essentially the same issue. It doesn't matter if the democratic branches are right or wrong. We live in a democracy. They are allowed to make mistakes. And Trump did offer a rational explanation for deciding which countries to include. These are countries unwilling or unable to comply with Trumps demands for vetting their citizens. Whether you agree with this explanation or not is irrelevant to it's rationality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: BTW Obama didn't introduce the law that allows the State to determine which bathroom you're allowed to use and presumably State officials empowered to inspect genitalia to determine eligibility. That was North Carolina. Obama tried to block it. The schoolkids example is as weak as Clause 28 over here, using something that doesn't happen as an excuse to project your bigotry. I think the North Carolina deal was about businesses. Charlotte passed a law forcing all business to allow people to use the bathroom of their choice. In response the state legislature passed a law allowing businesses to require that people use the bathroom listed on their birth certificate if that is what the business wanted. A true transgendered person can easily change the sex on their birth certificate. It shouldn't have been a big deal. But even if it was about schools, states and local governments set up schools. They are supposed to set the rules outside of certain laws that have been passed by the federal Congress, which the President is charged with enforcing. I'm pretty sure the Congress has never passed a law mentioning or referencing transgender people or bathroom policy. It's a local issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Time for another link to this article about how weak the vetting was under Obama. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/i-went-through-americas-extreme-vetting-214703 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 10 hours ago, welshbairn said: Time for another link to this article about how weak the vetting was under Obama. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/i-went-through-americas-extreme-vetting-214703 I'm 6 months into an application for a K1 visa, and it's an absolute ball ache even for a wee white laddie from Edinburgh. Anyone who reckons folk are just piling into the States off some fucked dinghy going back and forth is an absolute slaver. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 1 hour ago, JamieThomas said: I'm 6 months into an application for a K1 visa, and it's an absolute ball ache even for a wee white laddie from Edinburgh. Anyone who reckons folk are just piling into the States off some fucked dinghy going back and forth is an absolute slaver. There are over 40 million foreign born people living in the US. 1 in 4 children in US schools are the children of immigrants. Rationally, any person from a democratic country with a similar standard of living who already speaks English should be at the front of the line to enter the US. Unfortunately we have an immigration system specifically designed to make our country worse off rather than better off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It's because I'm a socialist, isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, JamieThomas said: It's because I'm a socialist, isn't it? If you come to America any grandkids you have will most likely end up dirty capitalists. Not really bothered too much by what you believe. More about whether you will pull your own weight and the likelihood that you'll pass your shitty foreign views down the generations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Young British people that come to America for a year or so can be kind of douchey, but almost 100% of British adults that make the decision to move permanently to America did so because they prefer America as is. I'd assume it's the roughly the same when it comes to Americans in Britain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Well I certainly like Taco Bell and PBR. Oh, and the missus I suppose. Perhaps that where these Syrian lads are going wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I'm 6 months into an application for a K1 visa, and it's an absolute ball ache even for a wee white laddie from Edinburgh. Anyone who reckons folk are just piling into the States off some fucked dinghy going back and forth is an absolute slaver. We're losing you?Whereabouts in the states are you heading? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Trump's approval rating has fallen to 37% Even the halfwits who voted for him are deserting him. Like his inauguration crowd it's the worst since records began. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 These US Intelligence hearings are absolutely fascinating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: These US Intelligence hearings are absolutely fascinating. It's great stuff, are people who unmask US spies traitors? ...Yes those people we train/pay/bribe/blackmail to give the US intelligence are hero's. And people who give information to US enemies?..Aye they're traitors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: These US Intelligence hearings are absolutely fascinating. Have you got a link? P.S. Found it. http://intelligence.house.gov/ Edited March 20, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Have you got a link? BBC News 24, or 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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