welshbairn Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 The US is already at full scale economic war with Iran which is damaging them far more than taking out a few SAM bases and radar installations. Unilaterally ordering the World not to do business with them so Trump can say thanks to the Saudis for throwing him a great bash, and permanently booking entire floors in various of his hotels and apartment complexes, and, with their Gulf allies, bailing out his son-in-law for his disastrous real estate speculations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Ascribing any long term planning to Trump at this stage is daft given he’s regularly sundowning by noon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) I have a terrible vision of him and the the new British Prime Minister exchanging pussy grabbing stories. ETA then agreeing to bomb some brown people. Edited June 22, 2019 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 8 hours ago, welshbairn said: The US is already at full scale economic war with Iran which is damaging them far more than taking out a few SAM bases and radar installations... Very much underreported is the extent to which the Americans are following a Saudi and Israeli agenda against the Iranians at the moment after Obama and the EU had done the opposite to weaken the Saudi grip on the oil market. One of side effects of that is that the government controlled portion of Syria has a massive fuel crisis because the Iranians can't supply them with oil by sea through the Suez canal, which also undermines the Russian foreign policy in a big way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 And in keeping with recent "kinder, gentler machine gun" Trump, the orange buffoon walks back the planned ICE raids. All about optics for fatty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Very much underreported is the extent to which the Americans are following a Saudi and Israeli agenda against the Iranians at the moment after Obama and the EU had done the opposite to weaken the Saudi grip on the oil market. One of side effects of that is that the government controlled portion of Syria has a massive fuel crisis because the Iranians can't supply them with oil by sea through the Suez canal, which also undermines the Russian foreign policy in a big way. No help to Iran but Russia could supply Syria from its Black Sea ports, assuming the Turks aren't blockading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 There's sanctions imposed on Syria as well, which greatly complicates what any company that operates in western countries can do there. Trump is always claimed to be pro-Russian and isolationist but his foreign policy postures have been very pro-Zioinst and very much a continuation of Bush era neo-Con postures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, MixuFixit said: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/jun/22/curtis-flowers-conviction-supreme-court-removal-of-black-jurors Remember that evil guy Bret Kavanaugh from a bit ago? He's just thrown out a conviction because of racist prosecutors, and the only supreme court judge to disagree with them is the black Clarence Thomas... It was 7-2. Kavanaugh had nothing to lose and will continue to refer back to this when his future prejudices show through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children This is upsetting. It's unbelievable that people can work in places like this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children This is upsetting. It's unbelievable that people can work in places like this. I have a friend aged 60 with a lifetime of employment with the UK Civil Service who has now tendered his resignation because he cannot square his conscience with the roll-out of Universal Credit. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Trump's son-in-law thinks he can create a million jobs in the West Bank and Gaza, reduce Palestinian poverty by half and double the Palestinians’ GDP by begging $2.5 billion a year from the Sunnis in exchange for taking on Iran, and handing it over to a "multilateral development bank" who would deliver it to deserving entrepreneurs. None of the money has been promised. Not surprisingly the Palestinians are unconvinced and won't be attending the announcement. The same amount of unsourced money would be distributed in Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-plan-exclusive/exclusive-white-houses-kushner-unveils-economic-portion-of-middle-east-peace-plan-idUSKCN1TN0ES 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 $25bn over ten years for the Palestinians which will be invested in exploitative industries with the profits disappearing to the West in exchange for giving up their right to statehood. I think that might be a Naw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: $25bn over ten years for the Palestinians which will be invested in exploitative industries with the profits disappearing to the West in exchange for giving up their right to statehood. I think that might be a Naw. More likely skimmed off to Israeli firms in the occupied West Bank imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Imagine seeing concentration camps resurface in 2019 and using your energy to tone police people who call them what they are. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 On 23/06/2019 at 17:32, Detournement said: https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children This is upsetting. It's unbelievable that people can work in places like this. I don't want go get all melodramatic, but it genuinely frightens me where we (both the USA and the UK) are as societies. The American government has essentially kidnapped thousands of children and locked them in cages without even the most basic sanitation. At least 7 have died in the last year (no children had died in immigration custody in the previous decade). In some cases, their parents have been deported without the children. “A 2-year-old boy locked in detention wants to be held all the time. A few girls, ages 10 to 15, say they’ve been doing their best to feed and soothe the clingy toddler who was handed to them by a guard days ago.” They are torturing children, and a large number of people are supporting them. Actual Nazis are in charge in the States, and they're banging on the door Britain. Four Ethiopians arriving in Kent is a MIGRANT CRISIS! now according to the press. How many of those headlines will it take before a British politician suggests the Navy starts sinking the boats in the Channel? How many people would cheer them saying it? How many more would quietly acquiesce as long as it was someone who shared their politics? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/1142892378249924609 It's always going to be Bernie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48752927 Quote Some of America's richest people are urging US presidential candidates to back a wealth tax on the super-rich to improve inequality and climate change. "America has a moral, ethical and economic responsibility to tax our wealth more," they said in a letter. Signatories include investor George Soros, Facebook's co-founder Chris Hughes, and Molly Munger, daughter of billionaire Charlie Munger. The group said they were non-partisan and not endorsing any candidate. Do you reckon Trump will be listening to these folk? I doubt it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 This short clip is a bit harrowing but illustrates what’s going on. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-44503978/the-sound-of-migrant-children-separated-from-parents 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48775195 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) if the US does go to war with Iran then good old Jacob is going to sign up http://tinyurl.com/y3rs8ffp Edited June 27, 2019 by RiG Fixed long URL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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