dorlomin Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Hmmm one of the moves may be a constitutional change to make it illegal to discriminate on grounds of race, gender or sexuality. Effectively making affirmative action unconstitutional. Certainly picked a team that would head off in that direction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: P.S. Paddy Power have some daft and not so daft bets on Trump too. At 40/1 I think SpaceX's Red Dragon mission to Mars planned for 2018 is worth a punt. More likely in 2019/20 though. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2086270-spacex-says-it-will-fly-to-mars-in-2018-what-are-its-chances/ What odds are they giving for the first flight to mars with Donald Trump on board? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Poo said: What odds are they giving for the first flight to mars with Donald Trump on board? I think Hillary is more likely given the new Trump appointees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Yours for only $45. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Hmmm one of the moves may be a constitutional change to make it illegal to discriminate on grounds of race, gender or sexuality. Effectively making affirmative action unconstitutional. Certainly picked a team that would head off in that direction. It's like a Who's Who of the nutty alt-right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 2 hours ago, kilbowie2002 said: Yep im the exact same, I dont buy into the fact that because I want independence that i have to label myself a nationalist, for me, its partly because I reject british nationalism that I want independence. I just think Scotland would be more efficiently run and with a political philosophy closer to my own if it was independent. I hate Flower of Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 It's like a Who's Who of the nutty alt-right. Yeah, it's nutty to believe folk shouldn't face discrimination based on inherent traits.Fascist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 minute ago, banana said: Yeah, it's nutty to believe folk shouldn't face discrimination based on inherent traits. Fascist. Have you googled Jeff Sessions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Have you googled Jeff Sessions? Do you believe that people should face discrimination based on inherent traits? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 So Trump might change the classification of Islam from a religion to a political stance so that Muslims won't be protected under the constitution.Has he not got better things to be getting on with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 So Trump might change the classification of Islam from a religion to a political stance so that Muslims won't be protected under the constitution.Has he not got better things to be getting on with? Amazingly, its possible to devise policy in parallel with other policy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Yeah, it's nutty to believe folk shouldn't face discrimination based on inherent traits. Fascist. Do you actually know who who these people are? Flynn is the one that scares me the most. The man is totally Dagenham East. A swivel-eyed loon who should be nowhere near the levers of power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 47 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Do you actually know who who these people are? Flynn is the one that scares me the most. The man is totally Dagenham East. A swivel-eyed loon who should be nowhere near the levers of power. Getting back to the original post, do you believe that people should face discrimination based on inherent traits? It's a simple question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Is anyone really surprised at these appointments? Does anyone think that we won't see worse? I'm astounded at the naivety of those in the U.S. who gave any credence to Trump's conciliatory remarks after the election. For me it is confirmation that the post-election knee-jerk response that 'liberals' should be prepared to meet these folk half way is completely of the mark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Liberals swallowing whole what the MSM feeds them, despite repeated lessons that they're lying, misrepresenting propaganda merchants 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, banana said: Liberals swallowing whole what the MSM feeds them, despite repeated lessons that they're lying, misrepresenting propaganda merchants It's Liberals swallowing what the MSM feeds them that leads to Donald Trump and Maggie May type governments. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Liberals swallowing whole what the MSM feeds them, despite repeated lessons that they're lying, misrepresenting propaganda merchants[emoji38] Says the man who gets his news from the Breitbart Nazi Network . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bairnardo said: This thread and the one about Brexit is truly indicative of how poisonous and toxic politics is these days. Like watching fans of football teams arguing the toss with eachother. Half expecting to see a "so's yer maw" in PMQ's these days. No one able to behave like adults and consider views of others. That goes for left and right btw. Shameful stuff. I agree with you up to a point. I think we must engage with those of a different view point as it's only through rational discussion that arguments can be won. Of course it's not that simple. The U.S. election more than any other recent political event has shown that there's a whole group of politicians who have no problem telling continuous and massive lies on an unprecedented scale. More worrying, there's a large section of the voting public that is not interested in the veracity of the statements they are being fed and upon which they are making their decisions; or at least claiming to make them. In addition my earlier point about rational discussion has to be qualified. There are many who reject rational discourse, many others who are incapable of engaging in it, and many who have views so odious that no one would want to debate them. We are truly living in the post-truth era. Edit to add I'd pay good money to see someone use 'so's yer maw' at PMQs. Edited November 19, 2016 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Getting back to the original post, do you believe that people should face discrimination based on inherent traits? It's a simple question. The old free speech card - favourite tool of the alt/far right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 If you worried about Trump's Twitter game getting boring, do not fear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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