Jim McLean's Ghost Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Northboy said: My thoughts exactly. I'm not sure how many teams would have the finances, infrastructure and desire to run a B team (perhaps 6-8?). 6-8 teams is way too high. Celtic can't even run an U20s side along with their full team right now, They have been granted postponements for u20s fixtures when they have been playing away in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: 6-8 teams is way too high. Celtic can't even run an U20s side along with their full team right now, They have been granted postponements for u20s fixtures when they have been playing away in Europe. could that be because their under 20s team also plays in Euro youth league and that premier league cup thingy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, Booker-T said: could that be because their under 20s team also plays in Euro youth league and that premier league cup thingy? The Euro Youth League is a different age group. Born after January 1 1998. The U20s league is Born after January 1 1997 and you can have up to 5 overage players. If Celtic can't meet that burden I don't think even they have enough resources for a proper B team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Not this pish again. B-teams aren't going to magically blood a load of world class youngsters. Look at how many top flight German clubs have ditched their B-teams now they're not mandatory. It's not B-teams that have led to Germany's success, it's comprehensive talent spotting with well-funded and staffed development programmes funded by the DFB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 This shite about 'getting youngsters meaningful football' is miles away from the answer. If they are 17-20 and aren't already on the path to achieving something then it's too fucking late. Providing more opportunities for that group isn't going to turn average players any better. We need to get kids early, like 5-8 years old, and teach them actual football instead of running around in circles. It's not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 17 hours ago, mrman2011 said: B Teams are now a must for Scottish Football. We need to develop our talent better and to give them more games (competitively) while still in the club environment. Each B team would have a squad of 22 (18 of which are under 22). Imagine Celtic B vs Spartans would be interesting Look some lowland league sides have reserve teams a tier below, no one says a word but the mention of B/colt in the Scottish football pyramid and it seems like there is hell breaking loose. The benefits are that the Youngsters will develop better and even if they didn't make it at their senior club at 22 they would provide an experienced signing for L2/feeder club. All in turn the coaching and actual development will be good and Scotland could have a broader range of players to choose from Neil Doncaster's idea for the challenge cup was an excellent one but he needs to expand on that. What do you think This has been done to death. There is no evidence that having B teams in the league structure helps the development of players. Also there is no support from the fans for this. Please stop regurgitating the same plan and come up with something new Mr Doncaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 One of the flaws of age category football is that such a narrow and by rules, restricted, pool means that teams are dependent on a few decent players - these are the ones that might make it. The team mates will end up drifting downwards or out the game. Look at any youth team amongst top flight clubs from recent history. B teams will not make these players better. Playing on loan will not make these players much better. The guys that make it will benefit from such initiatives but the talent pool's too thin. What would perhaps work is some sort of competitive academy that was club-neutral and SFA funded. It would mean dispanding the existing Pro youth system but one entity picking up the best and working with them - say doing an intake of S5s from the performance academies and retaining them until turned 21 - would have a greater effect. Nevr going to happen as you'd need a utopia of no other professional U20 sides and therefore undoubtedly flawed but unless you pool the very best, a Colt/B/U20 side playing amongst the L2 sides is a waste of time. As it stands, the players are not up to that level, whether that's down to physique, ability, desire etc... that's for others to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 In Roman times, people caught trying to promote the idea of B or colt teams playing in the senior set up were placed in a bag with a wild animal and that bag was thrown in a river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 3 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: In Roman times, people caught trying to promote the idea of B or colt teams playing in the senior set up were placed in a bag with a wild animal and that bag was thrown in a river. Or thrown off the Tarpeian Rock. It doesn't matter who our players play against; as long as they are coached as they are, nothing will change, as they'll be coached to be technically poor and mentally weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 On 28/01/2017 at 00:14, CountyFan said: This shite about 'getting youngsters meaningful football' is miles away from the answer. If they are 17-20 and aren't already on the path to achieving something then it's too fucking late. Providing more opportunities for that group isn't going to turn average players any better. We need to get kids early, like 5-8 years old, and teach them actual football instead of running around in circles. It's not rocket science. If I think about it logically, the aim is not to produce good young players but good 25 year old players. Generally speaking I think we have seen a lot of good young players in Scotland over the years. The failure is the transition of such players into decent professional footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 We're struggling to field an A team never mind a fekking B team.[emoji58] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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