Wee Willie Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, Fide said: Mon the young yins. ...and me tae 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, Wee Willie said: ...and me tae You tae! There's obvs exceptions to the rule. My in laws, in their late 60s/ early 70s are fervent supporters of an independent Scotland. And I have a 21 year old nephew who is a Royal family loving, SNP hating No voter. Little weirdo that he is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 43 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Young people will be too busy sexting each other and taking legal highs to vote whereas the elderly have nothing to do aside from watch Homes Under the Hammer Bargain Hunt and vote in elections. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Westminster voting intention: CON: 44% (-4) LAB: 28% (+4) LDEM: 11% (-) UKIP: 8% (+1) (via @TNS_UK / 04 - 08 May) Chgs. w/ 02 May An 8 point swing, but still 16 in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 41 minutes ago, Kyle said: Westminster voting intention: CON: 44% (-4) LAB: 28% (+4) LDEM: 11% (-) UKIP: 8% (+1) (via @TNS_UK / 04 - 08 May) Chgs. w/ 02 May An 8 point swing, but still 16 in it. Where's the SNP in that list? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Any Scottish only polls due? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I really don't recognise Britain any more. Neither do I 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 I really don't recognise Britain any more. I've never recognised it north of border tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Kenny Farquharson has tweeted that Scottish Labour are saying that they are ahead or within a percentage point of the SNP in the following Westminister seats, based on ward voting in the council elections. I have added the sitting SNP MPs majority for reference.East Lothian Labour: 33.08% SNP: 27.92% Difference: +5.16 (SNP maj - 6,803)Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill Labour: 42.95% SNP: 41.3% Difference: +1.65 (SNP Maj - 11,501)Lanark and Hamilton East Labour: 32.12% SNP: 31.21% Difference: +0.91 (SNP Maj - 10,100)Midlothian Labour: 30.2% SNP: 30.67% Difference: -0.46 (SNP maj - 9,859)Airdrie and Shotts Labour: 39.05% SNP: 39.55 Difference: -0.50 (SNP maj - 8,779)Glasgow South West Labour: 38.38% SNP: 39.12% Difference: -0.74 (SNP maj - 9,950)Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath Labour: 33.58% SNP: 34.56% Difference: -0.97(SNP maj - 9,974)I've seen a few people make comparisons between the SNP vote in the local elections last week, the 2015 General Election and the 2016 Scottish Parliament elections - I think these comparisons are disingenuous. These figures can be illuminating - actual votes in real elections are always going to be a good guide - but local elections are different to national elections. Something like 10% of the vote nationally went to independent candidates, that obviously isn't going to be replicated. If you compare the 2011 Scottish Parliament election to the 2012 local elections you see a drop off for the SNP but one that wasn't sustained into national elections in 2015 or 2016.On the other hand, the turnout for these local elections was pretty solid, especially considering they were stand alone elections not on the same day as a national election. That could suggest that these results will be more closely replicated on the day.Overall, I'd be very surprised if the Labour Party win any of these seats on June 8th. It wouldn't surprise me in East Lothian to be honest. The SNP are hardly popular and they're suffering from issues like over-development. I think the SNP vote will go down, however whether that vote goes to Labour or the Tories, who knows. I know people who voted Yes and SNP at the last election thinking again because of concerns about immigration and because they backed Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 It wouldn't surprise me in East Lothian to be honest. The SNP are hardly popular and they're suffering from issues like over-development. I think the SNP vote will go down, however whether that vote goes to Labour or the Tories, who knows. I know people who voted Yes and SNP at the last election thinking again because of concerns about immigration and because they backed Brexit. Good to see one of the more intelligent unionist posters back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 As the Scottish Electorate get the hang of the STV system council elections will become a worse indicator for how people vote in a FPTP Westminster election 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Good to see one of the more intelligent unionist posters back Not intelligent enough to remember my password. Ha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, ICTChris said: Kenny Farquharson has tweeted that Scottish Labour are saying that they are ahead or within a percentage point of the SNP in the following Westminister seats, based on ward voting in the council elections. I have added the sitting SNP MPs majority for reference. East Lothian Labour: 33.08% SNP: 27.92% Difference: +5.16 (SNP maj - 6,803) Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill Labour: 42.95% SNP: 41.3% Difference: +1.65 (SNP Maj - 11,501) Lanark and Hamilton East Labour: 32.12% SNP: 31.21% Difference: +0.91 (SNP Maj - 10,100) Midlothian Labour: 30.2% SNP: 30.67% Difference: -0.46 (SNP maj - 9,859) Airdrie and Shotts Labour: 39.05% SNP: 39.55 Difference: -0.50 (SNP maj - 8,779) Glasgow South West Labour: 38.38% SNP: 39.12% Difference: -0.74 (SNP maj - 9,950) Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath Labour: 33.58% SNP: 34.56% Difference: -0.97(SNP maj - 9,974) I've seen a few people make comparisons between the SNP vote in the local elections last week, the 2015 General Election and the 2016 Scottish Parliament elections - I think these comparisons are disingenuous. These figures can be illuminating - actual votes in real elections are always going to be a good guide - but local elections are different to national elections. Something like 10% of the vote nationally went to independent candidates, that obviously isn't going to be replicated. If you compare the 2011 Scottish Parliament election to the 2012 local elections you see a drop off for the SNP but one that wasn't sustained into national elections in 2015 or 2016. On the other hand, the turnout for these local elections was pretty solid, especially considering they were stand alone elections not on the same day as a national election. That could suggest that these results will be more closely replicated on the day. Overall, I'd be very surprised if the Labour Party win any of these seats on June 8th. Yeah, STV is a different system altogether. SLAB are desperate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Tory extremists... these freaks actually have some power now. https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/10929/extremist-tory-candidates-elected-councils-across-scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well, this contrast is fairly stark... The over 65s have lost it completely. Along with Labour, the Tories are NOT guaranteeing a triple lock on pensions.It's not just the over 65s either. Why vote Tory? After all they've done. I reckon the Tories could commit mass murder and still get voted in at WM.What the fcuk is up with the British public? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Good to see one of the more intelligent unionist posters back All we need now is an intelligent separatist poster. The law of averages would indicate that there must be one out there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Kenny Farquharson Or Farq to his friends. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Glen Sannox said: All we need now is an intelligent separatist poster. The law of averages would indicate that there must be one out there. I've got a PhD..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, mjw said: Or Farq to his friends. Scottish journalists can be such lickspittles at times. Edited May 10, 2017 by Fide 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I reckon the Tories could commit mass murder and still get voted in at WM.What the fcuk is up with the British public? It could be argued down to manslaughter sure but they are already guilty of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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