Highland Capital Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 That poll has Ian Blackford losing his seat (despite the SNP going up to 49). I could see the SNP getting that number but surely he'd retain his seat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 New YouGov UK GE poll LD 24% Brexit 22% Labour 19% Cons 19% We live in interesting times.If the Torys want to survive they need to go hard hard brexit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Highland Capital said: That poll has Ian Blackford losing his seat (despite the SNP going up to 49). I could see the SNP getting that number but surely he'd retain his seat. These polls assume a uniform national swing, and Blackford is in an area where the Lib Dems are the main opposition (traditionally, although the Tories did finish 2nd last time), so their vote share increase takes them into 1st in that constituency. However, the polls don't take into account that the Lib Dems will do proportionally worse in Scotland because down here they're hoovering up the remain vote almost entirely, whereas up in Scotland they're only hoovering up the remainers who oppose independence whereas the SNP pick up the remainers who voted yes to independence. I'd expect Blackford to hold his seat, albeit perhaps with the Lib Dems retaking second place and eating into Blackford's majority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Highland Capital said: That poll has Ian Blackford losing his seat (despite the SNP going up to 49). I could see the SNP getting that number but surely he'd retain his seat. Find it all a bit strange seeing as we’ve just had an election and the SNP schoosed it in that constituency. I hear Alistar Carmichael is somewhere in Ross, Skye and Lochaber tomorrow though so no doubt this will be getting a mention. Edited May 30, 2019 by Londonwell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 3 hours ago, Tibbermoresaint said: New YouGov UK GE poll LD 24% Brexit 22% Labour 19% Cons 19% We live in interesting times. If the Torys want to survive they need to go hard hard brexit The problem now is that there's barely such thing as a soft-Brexiteer anymore. Everyone either seems to want no deal or revoke and stay in. The Tories could come out for no deal but it will piss off probably 1/3 of their core vote to the Lib Dems, whereas going for second referendum pisses off the rest to the Brexit party. I see no way that the Tory party survives in its current form. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Donathan said: These polls assume a uniform national swing, and Blackford is in an area where the Lib Dems are the main opposition (traditionally, although the Tories did finish 2nd last time), so their vote share increase takes them into 1st in that constituency. However, the polls don't take into account that the Lib Dems will do proportionally worse in Scotland because down here they're hoovering up the remain vote almost entirely, whereas up in Scotland they're only hoovering up the remainers who oppose independence whereas the SNP pick up the remainers who voted yes to independence. I'd expect Blackford to hold his seat, albeit perhaps with the Lib Dems retaking second place and eating into Blackford's majority. That makes a lot of sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Londonwell said: Find it all a bit strange seeing as we’ve just had an election and the SNP schoosed it in that constituency. I hear Alistar Carmichael is somewhere in Ross, Skye and Lochaber tomorrow though so no doubt this will be getting a mention. Calm doon, these polls are on uniform swings and the Lib Dem national share has gone through the roof. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 4 hours ago, Tibbermoresaint said: New YouGov UK GE poll LD 24% Brexit 22% Labour 19% Cons 19% We live in interesting times. If the Torys want to survive they need to go hard hard brexit Aye, f**k the WTO as well as the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Donathan said: Calm doon, these polls are on uniform swings and the Lib Dem national share has gone through the roof. You've gone out of synch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Donathan said: Calm doon, these polls are on uniform swings and the Lib Dem national share has gone through the roof. I’m sedate, and I just said your post makes a lot of sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 The only precedent worth noting is the Lib Dems shitting their wee pants and going into coalition with the Tories. They are very responsible for this mess and should not be allowed near government again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Yeah, a sizeable Lib Dem vote just shows that plenty of Remainers will allow any amount of Tory enabling if they have the right attitude to EU membership. Nobody in the Lib Dem’s ever showed any contrition for the coalition, they all loved it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Going to open a book on Libdems not winning more than 50 seatsThey'll not even get that many - they'll shit the bed as usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 One thing is for sure; if the Lib Dems are rising in the polls it's always a sign of who they are not, rather than who they are and what they stand for.They should be renamed NOTA, as in 'none of the above', a diddy on the subs bench who only gets a game in an emergency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: Yeah, a sizeable Lib Dem vote just shows that plenty of Remainers will allow any amount of Tory enabling if they have the right attitude to EU membership. Nobody in the Lib Dem’s ever showed any contrition for the coalition, they all loved it. Who else should they vote for in England? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 54 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: Who else should they vote for in England? This. It’s the worst of all options unless Labour gets its shit together which is looking unlikely. It would help if Momentum took a firm pro-Remain position and started campaigning on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: This. It’s the least worst of all options unless Labour gets its shit together which is looking unlikely. It would help if Momentum took a firm pro-Remain position and started campaigning on it. FTFY I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Vote for the Greens. They're shit as well but at least they didn't let people die for a fucking plastic bag charge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 The Guardian: Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/01/brexit-party-nigel-farage-lead-opinion-poll-conservatives-opinium 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 The Guardian: Brexit party tops Westminster election poll for first time.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/01/brexit-party-nigel-farage-lead-opinion-poll-conservatives-opiniumThat's why the Torys now have to back a hard brexit. Their whole survival is at stake here. Hopefully the party doesn't and dies. Evil cuntz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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