Arab_R_us Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I’ve always felt a little uncomfortable with the idea of being judge, jury and executioner if someone over some private texts from 10 years past. The guy may well be a c**t but I couldn’t and wouldn’t pretend to know. Saying that, it seems really daft/naive from the hibs board. They must have seen the backlash coming so they’ve obviously judged he’s bringing something to the table that is worth it, I’d be interested to know what that is. what backlash thou ? a few people on social media, Clubs pay far to much attention to this kind of thing IMO, its a very small % of the fan base but because its vocal , clubs give it too much credence. Put it this way if Hibs start doing well 99.9% of the fanbase wont give a f**k about Mckay. I will laugh my ass off watching the " im no coming back" brigade come back with their tails between their legs. Edited May 15 by Arab_R_us -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 13 minutes ago, Arab_R_us said: what backlash thou ? a few people on social media, Clubs pay far to much attention to this kind of thing IMO, its a very small % of the fan base but because its vocal , clubs give it too much credence. Put it this way if Hibs start doing well 99.9% of the fanbase wont give a f**k about Mckay. I will laugh my ass off watching the " im no coming back" brigade come back with their tails between their legs. It's also been a pretty open secret / rumour for a while that he was coming, so lots of these people have had months to work out their seethe. If he improves us (no hard), watch them disappear like snow off a dyke. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arab_R_us Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Leith Green said: It's also been a pretty open secret / rumour for a while that he was coming, so lots of these people have had months to work out their seethe. If he improves us (no hard), watch them disappear like snow off a dyke. like this twat: Duncan McKay @DuncMcKay Tomorrow night will be my last game at Easter Road whilst that horrible human being is employed at Hibs. I loathe the people that run my football club right now -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Arab_R_us said: like this twat: Duncan McKay @DuncMcKay Tomorrow night will be my last game at Easter Road whilst that horrible human being is employed at Hibs. I loathe the people that run my football club right now Mr McKay obviously had no issues with Hibs being captained by a convicted Drink Driver and even worse, a Tory Voter. He obviously had no issues with rotten behaviour in the past from Stokes, Riordan and O'Connor and still went. Amazing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Fraser Fyvie said: What is there to be "discussed"? He said what he said, then apologised and said there's no excuse for it. What more do you want him to say? Can you show me his apology? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 49 minutes ago, AndyM said: Teenage Ultras. Add cheap alcohol and marching powder for instant arsehole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkboy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Arab_R_us said: what backlash thou ? a few people on social media, Clubs pay far to much attention to this kind of thing IMO, its a very small % of the fan base but because its vocal , clubs give it too much credence. Put it this way if Hibs start doing well 99.9% of the fanbase wont give a f**k about Mckay. I will laugh my ass off watching the " im no coming back" brigade come back with their tails between their legs. Wonder why a Dundee United fan is so passionate defending the racist homophobe. Can't believe some Hibs fans are falling for the "he apologised" line, but I suppose some football fans are loyal to a fault. The thing with boycotting your club? It's hard at the start because you're breaking the habits of a lifetime. But then when you find out that you can still enjoy Saturday afternoons, either going to watch a side who didn't just hire a racist homophobe or just doing other things? It gets easier. Besides, I don't think we have to worry about Hibs starting to do well...We're not talking about Pep Guardiola, it's Malky Mackay, he's fucking hopeless, his teams are murder to watch & while certain folk will try to sell you on his amazing contacts down south it just means you'll get some loans from Championship teams of players who in 4 years will be playing in the 7th tier for Kettering. Edited May 15 by forkboy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Fans are never happy. We've massively strengthened the right wing position with this signing and folks are still complaining. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arab_R_us Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 9 minutes ago, forkboy said: Wonder why a Dundee United fan is so passionate defending the racist homophobe. Can't believe some Hibs fans are falling for the "he apologised" line, but I suppose some football fans are loyal to a fault. The thing with boycotting your club? It's hard at the start because you're breaking the habits of a lifetime. But then when you find out that you can still enjoy Saturday afternoons, either going to watch a side who didn't just hire a racist homophobe or just doing other things? It gets easier. Besides, I don't think we have to worry about Hibs starting to do well...We're not talking about Pep Guardiola, it's Malky Mackay, he's fucking hopeless, his teams are murder to watch & while certain folk will try to sell you on his amazing contacts down south it just means you'll get some loans from Championship teams of players who in 4 years will be playing in the 7th tier for Kettering. an ist and a phobe , cancel him and string the c**t up -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 31 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Can you show me his apology? To be fair, he doesn't owe you and me an apology. That's social media entitlement pish. He owes the people involved an apology, and neither you nor I know if he gave that. Edited May 15 by VincentGuerin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 7 hours ago, Fraser Fyvie said: It's funny how the "I won't be back" brigade have no issue with "club legend" (and assault convict) Anthony Stokes and other various offenders but can't let go that MM sent some texts 10 years ago and has since been remorseful about. Just so it’s clear. The guy running building the team is not the same as a couple of players. For example, I work at a financial services company, if someone had a criminal past and joined my area and worked with me, even as a contractor where they’re on astonishing wages at times I wouldn’t care. However if we hired a new head of department who was a proven racist bigot, I would tender my resignation. You’re clearly far too thick to understand that mind you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: To be fair, he doesn't owe you and me an apology. That's social media entitlement pish. He owes the people involved an apology, and neither you nor I know if he gave that. Or you could read the article where the agent he made antisemitic jokes about, and the player he made racist jokes about, say they've never had any personal apology from him. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2731219/amp/Malky-Mackay-s-text-message-victims-What-said-response-followed.html Edited May 15 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonam Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 hours ago, Arab_R_us said: Aye all 5 of them. Hope the club sticks to its guns. Twitter and places like this don't represent a full fan base just the ones that shout loudest about everything. That's what I found with the so called 'County fans' that shouted so much during our threads. Never actually went to many of games in the first place! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arab_R_us Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, Les Cabbage said: Just so it’s clear. The guy running building the team is not the same as a couple of players. For example, I work at a financial services company, if someone had a criminal past and joined my area and worked with me, even as a contractor where they’re on astonishing wages at times I wouldn’t care. However if we hired a new head of department who was a proven racist bigot, I would tender my resignation. You’re clearly far too thick to understand that mind you. Things that wouldnt happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: I’ve always felt a little uncomfortable with the idea of being judge, jury and executioner if someone over some private texts from 10 years past. The guy may well be a c**t but I couldn’t and wouldn’t pretend to know. Saying that, it seems really daft/naive from the hibs board. They must have seen the backlash coming so they’ve obviously judged he’s bringing something to the table that is worth it, I’d be interested to know what that is. Yesterday was a great laugh, and it is funny to see Hibs fans squirming over this, but this is broadly how I feel about it. The texts that we saw are completely not on, but I don't know the guy, don't really know anything about the background of it, and it all feels terribly Twitter-style self-righteous for me to basically be part of a gang trying to hound the guy out of employment in fitba forever. It's got nothing to do with me. It's between him and the people involved. I find this whole requirement for a global apology to the whole world to be a very unsavoury element of modern culture. This will remain very funny, however. Edited May 15 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Or you could read the article where the agent he made antisemitic jokes about, and the player he made racist jokes about, say they've never had any personal apology from him. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2731219/amp/Malky-Mackay-s-text-message-victims-What-said-response-followed.html An article from ten years ago, aye? That's great going, it really is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arab_R_us Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, VincentGuerin said: Yesterday was a great laugh, and it is funny to see Hibs fans squirming over this, but this is broadly how I feel about it. The texts that we saw are completely not on, but I don't know the guy, don't really know anything about the background of it, and it all feels terribly Twitter-style self-righteous for me to basically be part of a gang trying to hound the guy out of employment in fitba forever. It's got nothing to do with me. It's between him and the people involved. I find this whole requirement for a global apology to the whole world to be a very unsavoury element of modern culture. That's where i am, these were private txts im pretty sure ? Would I txt this stuff to my pals ? No , but everybody txt stuff to Pals they wouldnt want shared to the world. I just cant stand sanctimonious virtue signalling. Boils my piss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: An article from ten years ago, aye? That's great going, it really is. If you can show me any proof he's apologised then I'll change my mind, but until then the evidence shows his apology was nothing more than a public show without any meaning behind it and it's highly likely he does similar but in a smaller friend group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, RandomGuy. said: If you can show me any proof he's apologised then I'll change my mind, but until then the evidence shows his apology was nothing more than a public show without any meaning behind it and it's highly likely he does similar but in a smaller friend group. More entitled pish. This is the Twitter generation. You're not due any proof. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, VincentGuerin said: More entitled pish. This is the Twitter generation. You're not due any proof. I know I'm not, I'm just saying that until I see some then that's the opinion I'll have based on what I've seen. You can only judge a character based on what evidence you get, and all I've seen is him say the "sorry you got offended" apology then ignore the victims, so I'll judge him based on that. You're clearly on a "woke culture" track here though, so yet again I'll just leave you to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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