Robert James Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) According to Sky Sports tonight, SPFL restructuring is back on, with a 14-10-10-10 structure, which looks like being accepted. If so, no relegation for Hearts, Partick & Stranraer. Brora Rangers & Kelty Hearts would be promoted to League Two, to fill the 2 vacant places. Edited June 11, 2020 by Robert James post sent in error before completed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, gogsy said: No way is it going to get the support it needs. SPFL clubs should have said weeks ago "12-10-10-10 is staying and Hearts are down". Don't shoot the messenger. Its on Sky Sports News at present. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 39 minutes ago, gogsy said: Ah well then it must be correct There’s 300 pages of debate over on the Premiership forum for those bored enough to read it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 07/06/2020 at 16:33, AlanCamelonfan said: stop talking pish pricey. You are a moron setting up millions of accounts even arguing with yourself. Surely their is more things to do in denny that set up lots of accounts on pie and bovril and talk utter shite It’s not Pricey. On 08/06/2020 at 09:49, LongTimeLurker said: Given you and the Dunipace managerial team have accused me of being Pricey in the past are you now saying I have been red dotting myself with monotonous regularity for several weeks now or is this just a case of taking another wild blind shot in the dark? The truth is out there.... Tutankhamen is Marshmallo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 You might be onto something with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 15 hours ago, santheman said: There’s 300 pages of debate over on the Premiership forum for those bored enough to read it. Reconstruction of SPFL, back on ? "Last chance" apparently. See article in today's Highland Press & Journal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, Robert James said: Reconstruction of SPFL, back on ? "Last chance" apparently. See article in today's Highland Press & Journal. It’s never really been off. You can’t blame Hearts for not taking it lying down. Repercussions all the way down the Leagues for some clubs however it turns out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 53 minutes ago, Robert James said: Reconstruction of SPFL, back on ? "Last chance" apparently. See article in today's Highland Press & Journal. Unless there's any commentary on the North Juniors joining the pyramid under the Highland League, not sure why it matters in the Junior forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Are there any meetings ahead, regarding the future of the North Juniors ? Would be excellent to see them below the Highland, give clubs something to aim for. Or are the majority of the North juniors happy to stay where they are, at that level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Unless there's any commentary on the North Juniors joining the pyramid under the Highland League, not sure why it matters in the Junior forum. Well loads of other stuff unrelated to Junior football has found its way on to here at some point so why change now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, santheman said: Well loads of other stuff unrelated to Junior football has found its way on to here at some point so why change now. Absolutely true. Thanks santheman . Following favourable discussions with the Highland League, the North Caledonian League clubs have agreed to join the Highland pyramid. Whilst, the North Juniors/pyramid issue is not dead, there is no agreement as yet, that they will enter the pyramid, alongside the NCL. My P&B post from last Sunday evening refers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Just looking back for a moment. This huge change all kicked off when Kelty Hearts packed in the Juniors for the EoS in summer 2017. They say revolutions take five years with years six and seven showing the result at its best. This seems like a revolution: Year One: 2017 (for 2017/18): Kelty Hearts move to the EoS and win promotion to the Lowland League Year Two: 2018 (for 2018/19): Mass exodus from the East Juniors to the EoS and Bonnyrigg Red Rose win promotion to the Lowland League. Year Three: 2019 (for 2019/20): Glenrothes and Kinnoull join the EoS. This strengthens the EoS in Perth and Fife. Bo'ness United expected to be promoted to the Lowland League (subject to gaining Licence). Year Four: 2020 (for 2020/21): A third Perthshire Junior club joins the EoS (Luncarty) plus seven Fife Juniors plus it is likely that a West Lothian club (Livingston Utd) will move later this month. All 63 West Juniors move to the Pyramid in one go to form the WoS. The Lowland Under 20's Development League more than doubles in size and includes seven clubs from Division Two of last season's West Junior League (its' lowest division). The North Caledonian League seems to be on the point of joining the Highland League part of the Pyramid. Year Five: 2021 (for 2021/22): Possibilities could be: [a] Most, if not all, of the remaining eligible West Lothian Juniors move to the EoS ? Some newer sides may not meet the entry criteria? The north of Tay Bridge Juniors go Senior as their own league and part of the Highland League Pyramid ? [c] The North Juniors join the Seniors as part of the Highland League part of the Pyramid ? [d] In the Highland Pyramid area there will not be compulsory promotion to the Highland League (and therefore relegations may be occasional rather than annual) ? Edited June 14, 2020 by Dev . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 There is no sign that the HL wants a Tayside feeder. They only ever mention the north region and NCL on that. Luncarty has set the precedent that the Tay bridge boundary isn't relevant for EoS entry. All Tayside clubs could apply to the EoS and have the membership decide whether they get in just as West Lothian clubs can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Pub League Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 You know why Luncarty got in, the likes of Lochee will have to go north if they want to join the pyramid - as it should be. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, Junior Pub League said: You know why Luncarty got in, the likes of Lochee will have to go north if they want to join the pyramid - as it should be. Not yet they won't. Lochee can apply to the EOS, then it will be up to the existing clubs whether they are accepted. I've said it several times before and I'll say it again. Luncarty was a complete red herring. Any team in Tayside can apply to the EOS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) ^^^For anyone who sees things the JPL way, it's best to go on Fitba North to get the north of Stonehaven perspective. They tend to view what gets posted on P&B about the pyramid as comically misinformed and the Tayside angle never rates a mention except to laugh at clueless P&B posters from the central belt. The narrative in P&J country only revolves around the north region juniors and NCL as HL feeders and the HL will need to sign off on any changes in tier 6 feeder terms. Until recently the pyramid used to be largely ignored in HL circles but as with the west juniors there has been a sea change in attitudes. Having Brora publicly campaigning for SPFL entry would have been unthinkable a few years back. Edited June 14, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: There is no sign that the HL wants a Tayside feeder. They only ever mention the north region and NCL on that. Luncarty has set the precedent that the Tay bridge boundary isn't relevant for EoS entry. All Tayside clubs could apply to the EoS and have the membership decide whether they get in just as West Lothian clubs can. That's right. Do you consider that the EoS clubs would wish to include Dundee and Angus etc? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 ^^^For anyone who sees things the JPL way, it's best to go on Fitba North to get the north of Stonehaven perspective. They tend to view what gets posted on P&B about the pyramid as comically misinformed and the Tayside angle never rates a mention except to laugh at clueless P&B posters from the central belt. The narrative in P&J country only revolves around the north region juniors and NCL as HL feeders and the HL will need to sign off on any changes in tier 6 feeder terms. Until recently the pyramid used to be largely ignored in HL circles but as with the west juniors there has been a sea change in attitudes. Having Brora publicly campaigning for SPFL entry would have been unthinkable a few years back.Even if any of that is remotely true, then why would anonymous opinion on one forum be worth anymore than the other? It's just opinion on the internet. Desperate posturing.The fact is the HL/LL line remains in place, and until it is removed or reformed, then it's probably unlikely that the EoS would accept members from north of it (just an opinion). As has been widely reported, applications have been turned down in the past.Therefore talk of Tayside clubs falling into the HL pyramid area and how that may be accommodated isn't "clueless" in the real world. As it stands, if they want to enter the Pyramid they have to look north, not south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Think the geography of clubs means we'll always have this debate, unless a more Central League at HL/LL level is created, then someone is always gonna be upset. Maybe a creation of a new city the size of Glasgow needs to be done somewhere,a new powerhouse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dev said: That's right. Do you consider that the EoS clubs would wish to include Dundee and Angus etc? Doubt there is a uniform opinion on that. For some clubs a midweek game in Dundee is no problem at all, but for others it's a bit of a nightmare in travel terms. There is pressure building for the Club 42 boundary to be shifted north of Brechin, so it's the LL that might be more pivotal on this issue as that would place Tayside firmly in EoS territory unless all the parties involved were willing to sign off on a fourth tier 6 feeder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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