Tutankhamen Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Doubt there is a uniform opinion on that. For some clubs a midweek game in Dundee is no problem at all, but for others it's a bit of a nightmare in travel terms. There is pressure building for the Club 42 boundary to be shifted north of Brechin, so it's the LL that might be more pivotal on this issue as that would place Tayside firmly in EoS territory unless all the parties involved were willing to sign off on a fourth tier 6 feeder. Back from London already? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: ^^^For anyone who sees things the JPL way, it's best to go on Fitba North to get the north of Stonehaven perspective. They tend to view what gets posted on P&B about the pyramid as comically misinformed and the Tayside angle never rates a mention except to laugh at clueless P&B posters from the central belt. The narrative in P&J country only revolves around the north region juniors and NCL as HL feeders and the HL will need to sign off on any changes in tier 6 feeder terms. Until recently the pyramid used to be largely ignored in HL circles but as with the west juniors there has been a sea change in attitudes. Having Brora publicly campaigning for SPFL entry would have been unthinkable a few years back. The posts that tend to get laughed at on FitbaNorth are the fantasy pyramid building around a Highland League 2 and things around how to resolve Tier 6 + below. Which is easy to do when you have people sandwiching NCL, North & Tayside clubs into a nice and neat 16 team league. As for the principle of Tayside teams being the Highland League proper. Generally they don't seem bothered about it. Keep in mind they go to Brora and Wick already, so they actually know a random trip South isn't a hardship that they can't manage. This year quite a few of the posters were looking forward to a trip to Brechin next season for the novelty if nothing else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just now, Tutankhamen said: Back from London already? Whisky tango foxtrot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Burnieman said: Even if any of that is remotely true, then why would anonymous opinion on one forum be worth anymore than the other? It's just opinion on the internet. Desperate posturing. The fact is the HL/LL line remains in place, and until it is removed or reformed, then it's probably unlikely that the EoS would accept members from north of it (just an opinion). As has been widely reported, applications have been turned down in the past. Therefore talk of Tayside clubs falling into the HL pyramid area and how that may be accommodated isn't "clueless" in the real world. As it stands, if they want to enter the Pyramid they have to look north, not south. Be interesting to know which applications have been turned down and by whom. Unless the EOS board have had a recent change of mind it wasn't them as they recently stated that they would take applications from any club regardless of location. Obviously the clubs could then reject the application. Certainly no Tayside team's request to join has been put before the clubs in the last three years. As for the dividing line I believe the SPFL don't want to move it north they want rid of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 ...which in practical terms probably has the same effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Dev said: Year Two: 2018 (for 2018/19): Mass exodus from the East Juniors to the EoS and Bonnyrigg Red Rose win promotion to the Lowland League. Year Four: 2020 (for 2020/21): A third Perthshire Junior club joins the EoS (Luncarty) plus seven Fife Juniors plus it is likely that a West Lothian club (Livingston Utd) will move later this month. 1. It's Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, not Red Rose! 2. I believe Livingston United's application has been rejected. Edited June 14, 2020 by archieb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGafraidh Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) I have always thought a 3 region tier 6 is the best solution 1) NCL (anything west of say Nairn) 2) North Juniors 3) Tayside/Angus/South Shire that way those who want to play football within say a 60 mile area can. Ambitious clubs can be ambitious Edited June 14, 2020 by MacGafraidh Typo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, archieb said: 1. It's Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, not Red Rose! 2. I believe Livingston United's application has been rejected. The first application was well after the stated deadline. After that got knocked back, they soon put in another for 2021-22. There is speculation that if/when Bo'ness United get their entry level license and promotion to the LL, Livingston United will be voted in at the EoS AGM to fill the gap that opens up in the tier 7 conferences. Edited June 15, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 The remaining West Lothian juniors, some are warm to a move to the EoS,you add in Tayside juniors and they will become decidedly cold to it... That's why they have they're own individual East super leagues....no much travelling. That was a big reason in setting up different east super leagues north and south for the Whitburn committee.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Just now, Whitburn Vale said: The remaining West Lothian juniors, some are warm to a move to the EoS,you add in Tayside juniors and they will become decidedly cold to it... That's why they have they're own individual East super leagues....no much travelling. That was a big reason in setting up different east super leagues north and south for the Whitburn committee.. Time for a South of M8 East Super League and North of M8 East SuperL eague. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said: Time for a South of M8 East Super League and North of M8 East SuperL eague. Sounds a plan cmon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 11 hours ago, archieb said: 1. It's Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, not Red Rose! 2. I believe Livingston United's application has been rejected. Fair enough but the club uses the red rose. Livingston - we'll have a short while to know either way. Roses LottoClub Shop50/50 Club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 02/06/2020 at 10:22, Jerry Macguire said: Your right. When we joined in 2014 teams like Dalbeattie Star and Whitehill Welfare were the heavy hitters. Amazing the changes in only 6 years. Heavy hitters The LL was Spartans pride and joy.I think they would've thought theyd be SPFL by now. WW best season was 4th in its 1st season and it's been downhill since then. Definately big changes in only its 6 years and more to come all for the good of the game. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: Heavy hitters The LL was Spartans pride and joy.I think they would've thought theyd be SPFL by now. WW best season was 4th in its 1st season and it's been downhill since then. Definately big changes in only its 6 years and more to come all for the good of the game. Yeah your spot on. Clubs like Spartans used to looked down their noses at us and our wee club. Now they need to look up if they want to patronise us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Pub League Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 18 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: clueless P&B posters from the central belt. Good to see you are finally realising your considered to be a massive joke on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Another horrific day coming up for the 'pyramid ' with the lowland and highland 'champs ' going nowhere predictably and rightly so. What will it be next season to deny clubs promotion? What will it be next season to deny clubs license and full memberships? What will it be next season that the rulers of the game in scotland and the senior league clubs do to protect themselves in a post pandemic world that further shatters the 'pyramid ' That attitude in turn filtering down to tier 5 to prevent any opening up at the bottom of those tiers. In turn the new bottom feeders in tier 6 and below stuck in a system run by a laughable organisation in the sfa with part of those clubs identity, soul and heritage gone stuck at the bottom of the worst system in european football . Grim stuff. [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Kelty and Brora not getting a shot at SPFL entry will not be good for the pyramid if/when it happens. What the whole reconstruction debacle shows is that the chances of ever changing the Club 42 playoff format to something more progressive are somewhere between exceedingly slim and none. Having a pyramid is better than not having a pyramid, but it's myopic in the extreme to pretend that there aren't severe flaws with the one we now have. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 The SFA should take Brechin's non appearance in their competition as a scratch and inform the SPFL they are now relegated, to be replaced in due course by Brora or Kelty. Ah, thought not. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 2 hours ago, NCAC said: Another horrific day coming up for the 'pyramid ' with the lowland and highland 'champs ' going nowhere predictably and rightly so. What will it be next season to deny clubs promotion? What will it be next season to deny clubs license and full memberships? What will it be next season that the rulers of the game in scotland and the senior league clubs do to protect themselves in a post pandemic world that further shatters the 'pyramid ' That attitude in turn filtering down to tier 5 to prevent any opening up at the bottom of those tiers. In turn the new bottom feeders in tier 6 and below stuck in a system run by a laughable organisation in the sfa with part of those clubs identity, soul and heritage gone stuck at the bottom of the worst system in european football . Grim stuff. Reminds me of years and years of SJFA. Ah! That's where it came from. Progressive bunch. I must be mistaken, mustn't I ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said: The SFA should take Brechin's non appearance in their competition as a scratch and inform the SPFL they are now relegated, to be replaced in due course by Brora or Kelty. Ah, thought not. Unfortunately the SPFL is off the hook in terms of the rules as written because they run the final set of games involving Club 42 and the Kelty Brora games organised by the SFA couldn't be played when the season ended as they are supposed to be. Edited June 15, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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