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Junior football, what is the future?


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Not sure if this has been covered already but with 12 East juniors having applied for the EOS, and assuming they're all accepted, that would only leave a combined 16 clubs for the regional north and South leagues. 

Do we therefore assume there’s a merger and it’s a straight 3 x 16 team set up, or a 16 team super league with two regional 16 team leagues feeding into it. I’d favour the former. 

 

Given there was a move from some clubs at last year's AGM to scrap the Premier, I suspect that is what will happen.

 

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I'd suspect this is what will happen but what will that mean to those who earn promotion from regional leagues.

Well done on getting into top 2 but your going to be playing against same teams you have just faced all season again

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27 minutes ago, Cumbo said:

As someone involved with a team at bottom end of Super League we would like to know sooner rather than later what is happening

Until clubs resign from the league then I doubt you'll get any clarity unless the Region start planning now based on the expected numbers departing.  It will become clearer after the EoS EGM on 26th April where they are expected to admit the new applicants.

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The problem remains that the standard of teams making up the lowland league are not good enough to be the tier below the national leagues.We all know that theres many junior teams better equiped in playing standards and ground and fan base.It would make more sence for the SFA to create a new national league sitting above the lowland league,take the top 4 west junior, the top 4 east junior,top 4 highland with top 2 east of scotland and top 2 south scotland and 2 from north juniors,making an 18 team brilliant league.The lowland teams  can then be distributed into their geographical areas ie east of scotland or west junior being equal at teir 6.Does that make sence or tweaked a bit further?

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East Stirlingshire slotting into the division with little expectation of going back up anytime soon and East Kilbride needing penalties to be seen off by a League Two team in last season's playoff final demonstrates that there is no such problem with the standard of teams in the Lowland League. So Junior clubs will enter where they're told to enter - far beneath those already in the pyramid of course - having tried and failed to sabotage the Lowland League at its inception. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Duraglit shareholder said:

The problem remains that the standard of teams making up the lowland league are not good enough to be the tier below the national leagues.We all know that theres many junior teams better equiped in playing standards and ground and fan base.It would make more sence for the SFA to create a new national league sitting above the lowland league,take the top 4 west junior, the top 4 east junior,top 4 highland with top 2 east of scotland and top 2 south scotland and 2 from north juniors,making an 18 team brilliant league.The lowland teams  can then be distributed into their geographical areas ie east of scotland or west junior being equal at teir 6.Does that make sence or tweaked a bit further?

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Junior teams missed the boat, there is no way they will be or should be jumping teams that have met the criteria for participation over the last 5 years or so - and that 18 team idea that misses out teams from the LL is a terrible idea - the top LL clubs would canter the Junior leagues.

The Talbot fans seethe is glorious to behold.

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15 minutes ago, Duraglit shareholder said:

The problem remains that the standard of teams making up the lowland league are not good enough to be the tier below the national leagues.We all know that theres many junior teams better equiped in playing standards and ground and fan base.It would make more sence for the SFA to create a new national league sitting above the lowland league,take the top 4 west junior, the top 4 east junior,top 4 highland with top 2 east of scotland and top 2 south scotland and 2 from north juniors,making an 18 team brilliant league.The lowland teams  can then be distributed into their geographical areas ie east of scotland or west junior being equal at teir 6.Does that make sence or tweaked a bit further?

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So if there were 28 teams next season, two leagues of 14 with each playing each other once.

Created by very rough seeding, top, one division, second and third the other, fourth same division as the top one etc. etc.

Then the top seven of each in the 14 team first division, bottom seven of each in the 14 team second division.

Basically a little qualifying round to work out the two leagues!

Results carried forward between teams who find themselves in the same division again as the qualifying round. To cut down on fixtures, there's no need to play the same fixture at the same venue again.

The remainder of the home and away fixtures are then completed for the first and second divisions.

Seven extra fixtures compared to a home and away 14 team league. So 33 fixtures for each team overall. 26 counting towards the final positions in the first division and the second division as would normally be the case.

Promotion and relegation at the end of the season, two up, two down.

Maybe three up, three down just next season?

Third promotion spot as a playoff between third bottom of the first division and third in the second division?

2019/20 is then simple league fixtures for each club.

If you get more applications next season teams might escape relegation and extra teams might be promoted. New teams in the second division. Or just create a second division north and a second division south.

Just an idea and of course there might not end up being 28 teams.

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Imo when the Junior teams join the pyramid it may take a decade or so but all the current lowland league teams wight he exception of one or two will drop a league.

These clubs have been pioneers but fan base will always triumph in the long run.

It'll be a cracking league once the dust settles with good attendance.

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Not sure if this article has been shared yet - looking at Clydebank and the West region specifically, given most talk in here is East-centric.

Looks like a WoS League is happening next season, SJFA organised or otherwise!

http://www.clydebankpost.co.uk/sport/16142288.Clydebank_FC_willing_to_back_new_West_of_Scotland_league/

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39 minutes ago, Born To Run said:

Not sure if this article has been shared yet - looking at Clydebank and the West region specifically, given most talk in here is East-centric.

Looks like a WoS League is happening next season, SJFA organised or otherwise!

http://www.clydebankpost.co.uk/sport/16142288.Clydebank_FC_willing_to_back_new_West_of_Scotland_league/

Everything in that article talks about 2019/20 rather than next season.

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40 minutes ago, Born To Run said:

Not sure if this article has been shared yet - looking at Clydebank and the West region specifically, given most talk in here is East-centric.

Looks like a WoS League is happening next season, SJFA organised or otherwise!

http://www.clydebankpost.co.uk/sport/16142288.Clydebank_FC_willing_to_back_new_West_of_Scotland_league/

The article reads that it is happening 2019-20, not next season as Clydebank are willing to let the SJFA run with it for the time being,

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If the eos does end up with 2 leagues of around 14 next season it will undoubtedly change again the following season. I believe 16 is the optimum teams so fully expect it to grow further again to at least 2 if not 3 or 4 leagues of 16.

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18 minutes ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said:

Theres Universities and Sport Centres in there just now.

People do like to sneer at those clubs, the fact that they are run better than the majority of Junior clubs and took the risk of joining the pyramid is for strange reason somehow held against them.

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