Khufu2 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, corner said: Khufu2, this is your road to Damascus moment. Welcome. Sincerely. It would only be a Damascene moment if I had said anything different. Actually, I haven’t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corner Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Khufu2 said: It would only be a Damascene moment if I had said anything different. Actually, I haven’t. Fair enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ShrimpLok said: Given the Lowland League currently has two tier six feeder leagues and there are proposals to create a third one I think any proposal for a West tier 6 feeder would include plans to (eventually) incorporate the SoS to make it simply east/west at tier 6. My plans for the north to begin with would be for the top Tayside clubs to join the North Superleague at tier 6, and for tier 7 you'd have the rest of the Tayside clubs in one division and the rest of North Juniors in another. Edited May 31, 2018 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khufu2 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Stag Nation said: I've just been watching the League of Gentlemen - "Local shops for local people ". For some reason I kept thinking about the west juniors ... Funny. I’ve just been listening to Shane McGowan’s Crock of Gold album. I think I might watch House of Cards next. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khufu2 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ginaro said: I think any proposal for a West tier 6 feeder would include plans to (eventually) incorporate the SoS to make it simply east/west at tier 6. My plans for the north to begin with would be for the top Tayside clubs to join the North Superleague at tier 7, and for tier 8 you'd have the rest of the Tayside clubs in one division and the rest of North Juniors in another. Won’t you need a tier 6 in the North? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Ginaro said: I think any proposal for a West tier 6 feeder would include plans to (eventually) incorporate the SoS to make it simply east/west at tier 6. My plans for the north to begin with would be for the top Tayside clubs to join the North Superleague at tier 7, and for tier 8 you'd have the rest of the Tayside clubs in one division and the rest of North Juniors in another. A North of Scotland league covering Tayside and Aberdeenshire would certainly work at Tier 6 if that’s what clubs wanted. But equally I see no reason you couldn’t have separate Tier 6 Leagues for Tayside, Grampian and even NCL if that option was club’s preferences. Less travelling and no need to worry about promotion to Highland League for 95% of teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, Khufu2 said: Won’t you need a tier 6 in the North? whoops, edited. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, ShrimpLok said: Given the Lowland League currently has two tier six feeder leagues and there are proposals to create a third one it strikes me that there is no necessity for the Tayside teams to merge with the north region. If they decided they wanted into the Pyramid system then there is nothing stopping them from setting up a new Tier 6 Tayside league and declaring that any licensed champions with floodlights will make an application to the Highland League. They could then get licensed if they wished for Scottish Cup entry and avoid promotion by failing to install Floodlights. Not suggesting it will happen immediately but if that were preferred to a merger with Aberdeenshire teams I don’t see how either SFA or Highland League could complain about them as a stand-alone Tier 6 League. Tayside as a separate tier 6 league would have equal status to the entire Highland and North East leagues? Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Tayside as a separate tier 6 league would have equal status to the entire Highland and North East leagues? Really? Highland League is Tier 5. What's the North East League? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Tayside as a separate tier 6 league would have equal status to the entire Highland and North East leagues? Really? It would if they set it up now because there is no Tier 6 League north of the Tay. Who could complain if Tayside clubs parked their Tank on that lawn? No one as there isn’t an alternative league already established except the NCL which isn’t going to want Tayside applicants. I’m not saying I think it will happen but there is no reason it couldn’t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, archieb said: Highland League is Tier 5. What's the North East League? The suggestion was a Tayside Superleague at level 6 matching the the Highlands and North East Superleague. I feel the balance is wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khufu2 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, archieb said: Highland League is Tier 5. What's the North East League? I believe he's discussing geographic areas rather than leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Unless you're Kelty last year, or Clydebank in February and I guess the original 12 Junior applicants from back in March. Not much fight for them, quite a bit of mocking and tae hell with'em from what I recall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Tamson Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Anyone in the know reckon that there are plans afoot within the East Region and their Northern friends already? It's strange that they've made no effort to be heard at all. Maybe they're waiting until they have something concrete to tell?Is it too ambitious to have anything in place for the start of the season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Jock Tamson said: Anyone in the know reckon that there are plans afoot within the East Region and their Northern friends already? It's strange that they've made no effort to be heard at all. Maybe they're waiting until they have something concrete to tell? Is it too ambitious to have anything in place for the start of the season? Probably. Those remaining in the East Region seem more focused on what it's going to look like in 2018-19 and were probably distracted with the possibility of the East/West Superleague to think about plan c. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ShrimpLok said: It would if they set it up now because there is no Tier 6 League north of the Tay. Who could complain if Tayside clubs parked their Tank on that lawn? No one as there isn’t an alternative league already established except the NCL which isn’t going to want Tayside applicants. I’m not saying I think it will happen but there is no reason it couldn’t. It's called the NRJFA Super league, as it happens. With two divisions below. All it needs is for the HL to tick the box. Edited May 31, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, welshbairn said: It's called the NRJFA Super league, as it happens. With two divisions below. No wonder the mess the Juniors have got into down south. Not a Tier 6 league because it's not in the SFA Pyramid. The J in NRJFA is the giveaway. If it was, Bank's O'dee as the licensed champion would have been eligible for promotion like every other Tier 6 champion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's called the NRJFA Super league, as it happens. With two divisions below. No wonder the mess the Juniors have got into down south. But it's not Tier 6. It's untiered, or tierless, because it has no connection t the pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, FairWeatherFan said: Not a Tier 6 league because it's not in the SFA Pyramid. The J in NRJFA is the giveaway. If it was, Bank's O'dee as the licensed champion would have been eligible for promotion like every other Tier 6 champion. Aye, I changed my post. What I meant was that the structure is all there, all it needs is the HL fulfilling their part. I don't understand why they don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's called the NRJFA Super league, as it happens. With two divisions below. All it needs is for the HL to tick the box. So long as the clubs affiliate to the SJFA and Reinstatement exists the NRJFA Super league is not a Tier 6 SFA Pyramid League. There are 16 East Region clubs north of the Tay. If the boundary were tweaked you could maybe add in a few more from Perth and maybe Tayport and Newburgh from Fife to get 20 or so clubs. North Region juniors look likely to be maximum 32 clubs next season so there isn’t a huge difference between the setups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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