DA Baracus Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 If only top criminals were smacked when they were kids then they might have grown up respecting folk more and not turned to a life of crime 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I love that digging deeper around some of the issues around this, or questioning of the smacking ban in general results in the suggestion that you're somehow advocating or complicit in bairns getting battered black and blue.Polarised politics in 2017. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, anotherchance said: I love that digging deeper around some of the issues around this, or questioning of the smacking ban in general results in the suggestion that you're somehow advocating or complicit in bairns getting battered black and blue. Polarised politics in 2017. Reported for racism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, anotherchance said: I love that digging deeper around some of the issues around this, or questioning of the smacking ban in general results in the suggestion that you're somehow advocating or complicit in bairns getting battered black and blue. Polarised politics in 2017. Most on here understanding the smacking side haven't even revealed their hand yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Bairnardo said: I turned out to be a good person. My Team : Falkirk Debatable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, LiviLion said: My Team : Falkirk Debatable. My Team: Livi Doesn't have a leg to stand on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Most on here understanding the smacking side haven't even revealed their hand yet. Humour ????? You're right though, as asked earlier in the thread, there haven't been many of the anti-smackers who have called out their own parents as absolute ogre's who have ruined their lives and driven them to feel sooooooo passionately about the matter...... since a thread was posted on here..... Och, I'm bored and enjoying the outrage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMDP Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 My parents never hit me once or my siblings. Of those favouring smacking, do you believe schools should be able to hit kids as a form of punishment again? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 do you believe schools should be able to hit kids as a form of punishment again? Why do people keep asking stupid questions like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMDP Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, 1320Lichtie said: Why do people keep asking stupid questions like this? Because it's interesting to get an insight into the mindset of what people believe in terms of the context of hitting children and who/where is appropriate to do this. You're a fucking brain donor though, so it's not surprising that you miss this pretty simple point. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Because it's interesting to get an insight into the mindset of what people believe in terms of the context of hitting children and who/where is appropriate to do this. You're a fucking brain donor though, so it's not surprising that you miss this pretty simple point. Interesting second paragraph considering the question you just asked. How is that relevant? It's completely different. What are you expecting people to say? Yes??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JMDP said: Because it's interesting to get an insight into the mindset of what people believe in terms of the context of hitting children and who/where is appropriate to do this. You're a fucking brain donor though, so it's not surprising that you miss this pretty simple point. Well I wouldn't have liked teachers to lift their hands to my kids, unfortunately we're left with the fact that a large number of them don't actually know how to handle kids. Edited October 21, 2017 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, JMDP said: Of those favouring smacking, do you believe schools should be able to hit kids as a form of punishment again? What about apprentices ?? Are we allowed to at least smack f**k out the thick as mince ones 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, heedthebaa said: What about apprentices ?? Are we allowed to at least smack f**k out the thick as mince ones Only on their 1st pay day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, JMDP said: My parents never hit me once or my siblings. Of those favouring smacking, do you believe schools should be able to hit kids as a form of punishment again? Don't favour smacking, but on a related tangent schools are currently able to in effect hold families hostage via threat of fine and jail (state-imposed violence) for the heinous act of taking absences during term time, for example for holidays. I'm open to the position that this is as or more disturbing and damaging an imposition overall than school corporal punishment ever was. Edited October 21, 2017 by banana -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, banana said: Don't favour smacking, but on a related tangent schools are currently able to in effect hold families hostage via threat of fine and jail (state-imposed violence) for the heinous act of taking absences during term time, for example for holidays. I'm open to the position that this is as or more disturbing and damaging an imposition overall than school corporal punishment ever was. You talk some shite 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, banana said: Don't favour smacking, but on a related tangent schools are currently able to in effect hold families hostage via threat of fine and jail (state-imposed violence) for the heinous act of taking absences during term time, for example for holidays. I'm open to the position that this is as or more disturbing and damaging an imposition overall than school corporal punishment ever was. Good luck with this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Good lord. Even before you get to the ludicrous conclusions no school or local authority in Scotland can impose fines for term time holiday absence. In England local authorities can impose fines of £60, which can rise to £120. Like a parking ticket or any other state sanctioned penalty non payment could conceivably end up in a summary prosecution and short prison sentence but it has never happened. TBH 60 quid seems pretty good value for paying off peak holiday prices. Edited October 21, 2017 by invergowrie arab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Shit. I think we have all been triggered 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 58 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: In England local authorities can impose fines of £60, which can rise to £120. Like a parking ticket or any other state sanctioned penalty non payment could conceivably end up in a summary prosecution and short prison sentence but it has never happened. TBH 60 quid seems pretty good value for paying off peak holiday prices. AFAIK, the financial penalty can rise to a few thousand, with criminal record, and potential 3 month jail term. Refusal to pay the fine has been taken as far as the Supreme Court, and the parents lost. At which point they paid up. That's a fucking absurd and scary series of events for having the temerity of judging whether it's ok to take your kids on holiday. The point is the restrictions and punishments even being in place, taking responsibility / judgement of care for the child away from the family, and into the hands of the state by default. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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