Richey Edwards Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 When you say "Real Rangers Men" do you mean people who are dead? Because Rangers are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I'm sorry I just like throwing out your catchphrases If it makes you feel any better I believe Barry Ferguson and his ilk talk about Real Rangers Men in situations like these to further ingratiate themselves with the elements of their support who buy into it, and any merit held by the desire for a manager with some clue how to manage in Scotland is lost amidst the bluster and mis-placed sense of superiority currently attached to a middling top-six club in Scotland. I'm happy I can enrich your use of English. You spoiled it by citing Barry Ferguson and "real Rangers men". I mentioned earlier that Sourness confounded the "real Rangers men" trope. Wee Dick took it to a new level. The best football Rangers ever played in my 6 decades of watching Rangers was under Advocaat and he wasn't a "real Rangers man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I'm happy I can enrich your use of English. You spoiled it by citing Barry Ferguson and "real Rangers men". I mentioned earlier that Sourness confounded the "real Rangers men" trope. Wee Dick took it to a new level. The best football Rangers ever played in my 6 decades of watching Rangers was under Advocaat and he wasn't a "real Rangers man". 5 + 1/2 decades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Booker-T said: 5 + 1/2 decades Nope. 6 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I'm happy I can enrich your use of English. You spoiled it by citing Barry Ferguson and "real Rangers men". I mentioned earlier that Sourness confounded the "real Rangers men" trope. Wee Dick took it to a new level. The best football Rangers ever played in my 6 decades of watching Rangers was under Advocaat and he wasn't a "real Rangers man". Very nice except chagrin is a French word. The Monster Muncher is the one going on about knowing the club, blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Very nice except chagrin is a French word. The Monster Muncher is the one going on about knowing the club, blame him. Big faux pas from you. It's an English word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plug mac Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 It will be mcliesh and Walter hovering over him but they be pissing against the wind as Pedro spent more than us so loads of duds still their so it's another treble for Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I'm happy I can enrich your use of English. You spoiled it by citing Barry Ferguson and "real Rangers men". I mentioned earlier that Sourness confounded the "real Rangers men" trope. Wee Dick took it to a new level. The best football Rangers ever played in my 6 decades of watching Rangers was under Advocaat and he wasn't a "real Rangers man". Yes, but the point being made here is that despite the fact managers with no prior connection to Rangers have delivered success, many Rangers fans - including those who work in football - are calling for a 'real Rangers man' on a scale that doesn't happen elsewhere. The fact that the few Rangers supporters on P&B aren't personally making that argument is irrelevant to the point that such views are prevalent in your fanbase as a whole. The issue up for discussion isn't 'Did Rangers ever have success with a manager who had no prior connection to the club?' It's 'Why do Rangers fans have such an obsession with the idea of the archetypal real Rangers man being manager when history shows this makes no difference?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, plug mac said: It will be mcliesh and Walter hovering over him but they be pissing against the wind as Pedro spent more than us so loads of duds still their so it's another treble for Celtic What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: Yes, but the point being made here is that despite the fact managers with no prior connection to Rangers have delivered success, many Rangers fans - including those who work in football - are calling for a 'real Rangers man' on a scale that doesn't happen elsewhere. The fact that the few Rangers supporters on P&B aren't personally making that argument is irrelevant to the point that such views are prevalent in your fanbase as a whole. The issue up for discussion isn't 'Did Rangers ever have success with a manager who had no prior connection to the club?' It's 'Why do Rangers fans have such an obsession with the idea of the archetypal real Rangers man being manager when history shows this makes no difference?' You're doing the thoroughly diddy thing of a. ignoring the fans on the very forum you're posting about and b, thinking tabloid shit is normative. This is unsurprising as the dolts on here pick and choose their arguments. We have a track record of successful managers with no prior connection to the club. Souness and Wee Dick being good recent examples. Jock Wallace being a good earlier example. In sum, we're not obsessed with having a 'good Rangers man' in charge though I do admire how much you focus on Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: You're doing the thoroughly diddy thing of a. ignoring the fans on the very forum you're posting about and b, thinking tabloid shit is normative. This is unsurprising as the dolts on here pick and choose their arguments. We have a track record of successful managers with no prior connection to the club. Souness and Wee Dick being good recent examples. Jock Wallace being a good earlier example. In sum, we're not obsessed with having a 'good Rangers man' in charge though I do admire how much focus on Rangers. Nah, come on. Recognise the point. This notion of a 'Rangers man' isn't an invention of the tabloids' although nobody would suggest they play it down. I'll concede that it has tinges of the same debate about local knowledge that surrounds the idea of the Scotland managerial appointment. However, the narrative about understanding the 'traditions of the club', the ' expectations' of the support is far more ridiculous. It's part of a "wha' s like us?" myth, that goes towards that weird mingling of superiority and insecurity that lots of OF fans seem to specialise in. Barry Ferguson embodies it nicely, but I don't think he's an outlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black and White Tragic Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Neil Lennon's done a decent job with Hibs, maybe the sizable uplift in pay could tempt him? He's also got a bit of experience managing a big club. His release fee should not be too big either.Put all the religious nonsense to the side, he's the perfect fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 57 minutes ago, Thistle4eva said: Do Rangers fans still sing god save the queen Just the old punks loyal. 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: Agreed its not right. But it's not immaterial. The fact that it is the prevailing mindset means it's at least as worthy of discussion as your view. I guess there is no one on here willing to put their head above the parapet and say why they feel Rangers uniquely need a Rangers man despite the vast majority of successful clubs all over the world proving that past association with a club is completely irrelevant. I'm guessing that no one feels that way Frodo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Placing trust in "real Rangers men" is a risky strategy. Many have been t*igs and screwed the club out of million of pounds recently. They need to be more stringent and look for realer Rangers men. Basically anyone without a UDF face tattoo need not apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 40 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Big faux pas from you. It's an English word. It's a French word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Think Kincardine is actually making sense Rangers have appointed managers with no direct ties to the club , I also think posters on here have misunderstood the bulk of bearz definition of "real rainjurz men " what they are trying to say is ( if the appointment of a new manager coincides with the bulk of rainjurz fans idea of a rainjurz man that appointment must be a man who is a bigoted male of Protestant origin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, plug mac said: It will be mcliesh and Walter hovering over him but they be pissing against the wind as Pedro spent more than us so loads of duds still their so it's another treble for Celtic relax and punctuate please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Just now, Cerberus said: Placing trust in "real Rangers men" is a risky strategy. Many have been t*igs and screwed the club out of million of pounds recently. They need to be more stringent and look for realer Rangers men. Basically anyone without a UDF face tattoo need not apply. I doubt that even you believe that but it does play to the gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle4eva Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, happyaccie said: Think Kincardine is actually making sense Rangers have appointed managers with no direct ties to the club , I also think posters on here have misunderstood the bulk of bearz definition of "real rainjurz men " what they are trying to say is ( if the appointment of a new manager coincides with the bulk of rainjurz fans idea of a rainjurz man that appointment must be a man who is a bigoted male of Protestant origin). Your right PEDRO of we are the people was a real rainjurz man he was as deluded as their support. Rangers just need a good fucking manager at the end of the day when Deila was in charge of Celtic how many of their fans rated Armstrong etc. Rodgers made the players already at Celtic a better team.. ranjiers need something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Think Kincardine is actually making sense Rangers have appointed managers with no direct ties to the club , I also think posters on here have misunderstood the bulk of bearz definition of "real rainjurz men " what they are trying to say is ( if the appointment of a new manager coincides with the bulk of rainjurz fans idea of a rainjurz man that appointment must be a man who is a bigoted male of Protestant origin). That's a tall order. Where will they find someone meeting those criteria? For less than a fiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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