EdTheDuck Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, COYR said: Had a go at working out the contested capacity conundrum using the scaled plans of Pittodrie and Hearts new stand. The Dick Donald and Merkland stands are fine and the Champions League level maximum recommended size pitch and track of 120x80m added. 16,884 for those 3 stands and if you got 6 rows of seating in a new stand on the other side that would be over 18,000. Lots of space opened up on the south side and the Merkland corner for fans to queue, mill about or evacuate and the necessary space for vehicles. Must be a much cheaper option too. It costs too much It won’t be allowed because…flats. Aye, flats. It costs too much because nae money fae sale o’ Pittodrie, ken. The trainin’ complex!!! Fit aboot the trainin’ complex?! We need 20,000 seats! 18,500’s nae enough because look at Setterday’s game against Hibs, 18,500 widna hae been near enough tae cater for 15,000 (btw 15,000? Really?) It costs too much. There’s nae room even though ye maun think there is wi’ yer wee dra’in tae scale. It costs too much. etc. etc. and so on and so forth Edited December 18, 2017 by EdTheDuck 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Melanius Mullarkey said: You OD'd on butteries? No but it sounds like a plan... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Could they build over Pittodrie street slightly, so the stand could overhang half the street. or Build straight up the way, like... and for the opposite side, get it converted to safe standing Edited December 18, 2017 by Booker-T 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Just do a Vicente Calderon. Demolish the stadium and move several miles out of town? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: Demolish the stadium and move several miles out of town? How much will Stewart Milne make out of this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Booker-T said: How much will Stewart Milne make out of this? Pennies Maybe two billion pennies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 14/12/2017 at 19:11, fatshaft said: Where would you have it and why would your location be better? Many of the objectors have been asked this, not one has an answer, just that Kingsford is the wrong location. So, please do tell? (and not Pittodrie, that's off the table as repeatedly explained) Many supporters can see that Kingsford is a daft idea but it's not up to them to identify a new stadium site. While on topic through: Dyce, King's Links and Loirston all are/would have been better options. The club incredibly turned down the chance to be part of the new AECC site but King's Links and Loirston are still deliverable. Each of those would have cost more than the otherwise unusable land at Kingsford but we would make that money back in the long run by not having to splash out on hiring 50-100 buses every week at £500 a go. The obsession over co-locating stadium and training facilities is bizarre. A good location is much more important than co-location and bringing "community facilities" and the community trust away from the community they're trying to serve seems odd to me. The club have never presented a solid case for why Pittodrie can't be redeveloped either. As I stated earlier, the 12,000 claim is ridiculous given that the RDS alone holds over 6000 on its own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Kick the golf course out to Kingsford. A central football club will be much more valuable to the Aberdeen economy than a golf course. Jobs a good un. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Could they build over Pittodrie street slightly, so the stand could overhang half the street. or Build straight up the way, like... and for the opposite side, get it converted to safe standing For a club that has tended to draw so much of its revenue from corporate hospitality an entire stand of corporate boxes might not be an entirely daft idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: For a club that has tended to draw so much of its revenue from corporate hospitality an entire stand of corporate boxes might not be an entirely daft idea. And building it like the Bombonera with open balconies mean the mainstanders can still be heard with their traditional chant of "sit doon! Sit doon!! Sit Dooooonnnn!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: For a club that has tended to draw so much of its revenue from corporate hospitality an entire stand of corporate boxes might not be an entirely daft idea. I think there's a new American football stadium that have done that (San Francisco or LA or somewhere), stuck all the corporate boxes on top of each other along one side. Looks fucking awful but I suppose there's logic to it. The one in Argentina is great cos that's all the space they seem to have had. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I think there's a new American football stadium that have done that (San Francisco or LA or somewhere), stuck all the corporate boxes on top of each other along one side. Looks fucking awful but I suppose there's logic to it. The one in Argentina is great cos that's all the space they seem to have had. San Francisco one is very cool, Levi Stadium. Has an open space garden area on top too with bars etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: San Francisco one is very cool, Levi Stadium. Has an open space garden area on top too with bars etc. Do you think? Im sure the facilities are amazing, but I think it looks disjointed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, PauloPerth said: I think there's a new American football stadium that have done that (San Francisco or LA or somewhere), stuck all the corporate boxes on top of each other along one side. Looks fucking awful but I suppose there's logic to it. The one in Argentina is great cos that's all the space they seem to have had. Yes indeedy. There is talk of expanding the Bombonera up from its current 49,000 capacity and their solution is to build another tier on top of the existing 3-tier traditional seating around 3 sides of the stadium because of the limited footprint available. They had considered moving to a new custom built stadium but there is such an outcry it's likely they will redevelop where they are. There is a 3rd option and Boca are looking at buying and flattening the apartments behind their VIP stand and making it the same as the rest of the stadium. It all sounds tremendously familiar with the exception of the Boca board actually looking for solutions that keeps the support happy despite the practical problems they face. Edited December 19, 2017 by EdTheDuck speeling erorr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 59 minutes ago, EdTheDuck said: the Boca board actually looking for solutions that keeps the support happy despite the practical problems they face. What is this nonsense?? It'll never catch on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Only corporate boxes you say? No problem. Always Luton the bright side of life... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Gosh! I am shocked at this... eggs basket (1) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, EdTheDuck said: Gosh! I am shocked at this... eggs basket (1) Should that not be Plan D, considering that this is already Plan C? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, EdTheDuck said: Gosh! I am shocked at this... eggs basket (1) Hardly news. This was said at the open hearing In October and it’s the reason that everything that Aberdeen have is behind Kingsford. Or have you not been following the story as it unfolds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Hardly news. This was said at the open hearing In October and it’s the reason that everything that Aberdeen have is behind Kingsford. Or have you not been following the story as it unfolds? So why did Milne feel the need to repeat it at the AGM? Maybe he hasn't been following the story as it unfolds, eh? A businessman who goes into a major project where his business faces disastrous repercussions in the event of failure with absolutely no alternative strategy is a damn fool and in this case because of his years of mismanagement it isn't just him who will be burned, it will be tens of thousands of Aberdeen fans. This is the point the dissenters are making , not the fact that Milne has repeated this particular eulogy yet again. If this Aurora horse-shit fails there is a fucking alternative by the way. Pittodrie. And if that costs millions more and means a stadium with 18,000 capacity then that is down to Milne and he should morally be prepared to get his cheque book out because it is entirely down to him that opportunities to buy land and develop Pittodrie over the last 25 years have been missed. Edited December 19, 2017 by EdTheDuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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